Sunday, August 17, 2025

How to get 170g of protein per day? Is this really necessary for fat loss?

Hi all, I’m 5’4 and 170 lbs. 27F. I’ve always lost weight but then gained it back again. Due to doing extreme weight loss things like eating very little and working out like crazy (not sustainable). I was recently diagnosed with PCOS and I want to try and lose the weight permanently. By doing it steadily and in a sustainable way.

I’ve gotten into cooking and have been focusing on eating whole foods, more veggies, more protein, less sugar, etc. I’ve also been walking everyday.

However, I’ve heard from people and also read online if I don’t have a minimum of 1 g of protein per pound I weigh, I will essentially be losing a mix of muscle and body fat and not just body fat (which I have a lot of).

I’ve been struggling to have 170g of protein/day along with being in a calorie deficit. The only way I’ve been managing this is having 3 protein shakes a day. I don’t like this since Whey protein has been giving me acne and I prefer eating meals. I also don’t like the majority of my calories/protein is coming from protein shakes rather than whole foods.

So my questions are: 1. Do I really need to be having around 170g of protein/day in order to lose majority body fat? 2. If the first answer is yes, how can I incorporate more protein while still being in a calorie deficit, without so many protein shakes?

I’m aiming for 1,500 calories per day. I burn about 500 calories per day from moving around/walking so I’ll eat around 2,000 calories per day.

I’m okay still having protein shakes, but my goal would probably just to have 1 a day. My protein shake is 1 scoop whey protein (24g/120c), 1 scoop of orgain collagen peptides (19g/80c), and a cup of Lactaid (8g/110c). So total is 51g of protein and 310 calories.

Thank you very much!

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Looking for a Houston-Area medical (pref hospital assoc.) weight-loss program

Hi all,

I am interested in a Houston-area weight loss program with a medical (non-surgical) approach - preferably associated with a hospital - and am hoping to get some feedback from anyone in this area that has experience with them. I tried to post this in the Houston forum, but got an automatic rejection. (?)

Anyway, I have looked at the websites for programs at Houston Methodist, Memorial Hermann, UT Physicians and Baylor College of Medicine.

I probably will not take GLP-1s because my insurance stopped covering them, but I am interested other medications.

I'd like to find one that does metabolic and body comp-testing, and it would be great if some amount of fitness training were a part of the program, though I figure I will probably have to do that on my own, since none mention much about it on their websites.

So, any Houstonian's here with input for me? I'd be very grateful :-)

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Tips for healthy weight loss?

I am down 27 lbs in about 14 weeks. I've had some digestive issues that I had to alter my diet to accommodate so my weight loss wasn't really planned or in a conventional way. I'm on medication where I can continue a normal diet now but I want to continue my weight loss.

My diet has consisted of an extremely low fat content (chicken breast, fat free bread, fat free dressing etc.) which I don't believe is super healthy to begin with. Any tips on managing weight loss on a normal diet are appreciated!

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Saturday, August 16, 2025

Randomly reviewing two insurance-sponsored weight loss/diabetes prevention apps

Having now had the experience of being told by two different health insurance companies that I am fat enough to qualify to participate in a free weight loss and diabetes prevention program, I thought I would share my experience with each in case anyone else is wondering if downloading these apps and participating in the programs are actually worth your time.

In early 2024, I was notified by my old insurance company Cigna that I qualified to join Omada Health. I received a free Omada branded scale in the mail, was matched with a health coach, and assigned a cohort to discuss weekly health lessons with, so I felt optimistic about my chances to finally lose the weight I had gained a few years earlier. The app interface looked very nice, with the ability to track food and exercise, with weight automatically being imported from their scale. I logged my food and activity every day and synced up with my health coach every week, and would have felt great about the experience except for this: I didn’t lose a single pound. This came down to the tracking method that Omada used for tracking meals: the user rates the meal by perceived size and nutrition. And that’s it. I could see that my “healthier” meals were all “large” and my “unhealthy” meals were all “small”, but what I couldn’t have told you was what the actual calorie count or quantifiable nutritional value of any of it was. As you can probably guess, a nutrition lesson that teaches that avocados and nuts include healthy fats but that doesn’t teach that they are also high in calories leaves out some pretty crucial information. I would message the health coach for advice but began to suspect he didn’t know much more about nutrition than I did after receiving quite a few canned chat responses. The group chats with my cohort had completely died after a couple of months, with me being the last holdout trying to keep the conversations alive. After nearly a year of feeling like I was doing everything right but seeing no change, it became clear that I had wasted my time in this program. But at least I got a free scale out of it… though I lost all of my past data as soon as my insurance changed and I lost access to the app since it was their own scale. I have since given that scale to my brother who uses it to weigh their cats.

At the beginning of 2025, my new health insurance BlueShield notified me that I qualify for my choice of one of several weight loss program options. I was feeling skeptical about trying another app based on my last experience, and this was around the same time I stumbled upon this subreddit and was beginning to learn some of these concepts on my own already, but I do love free things so I decided what did I have to lose? I selected the Transform app made by Personify Health, and honestly I mostly picked them because they would send me a free FitBit watch and FitBit brand scale. Personify offered many of the same things Omada did, including access to a health coach, weekly lessons, and a discussion space for everyone in the cohort. The app itself didn’t seem like anything to write home about, with a bit of a simplistic user interface that can frankly be quite buggy at times. I do like that it syncs directly with the FitBit app to note your activity levels, but wish it could connect to other apps like Lose It or MFP since FitBit’s food log is not my favorite. The first couple of weekly lessons felt a bit general, but what surprised me is that the lessons began to get more in depth within a few weeks, building off of past lessons in a way that didn’t feel overwhelming but which quickly surpassed what I had gotten out of Omada. The lesson on CICO actually did a really good job on explaining the topic in a way that was palatable to a beginner without shying away from the fact that it all comes down to basic math, a topic that the other app seemed to avoid entirely. Personify’s lesson on eating in a deficit while maintaining a social life or being pressured to eat more by family included examples that actually felt realistic, which made me think perhaps someone who had actually been in this sort of situation had been a part of the writing team. But what I really appreciated that I couldn’t have gotten from online research alone was access to a dedicated health coach who seemed to know what he was talking about. In addition to weekly chat check-ins, we have also have a call every month where we talk about how things are going, what questions I have on the lessons, and what changes I want to make. He always asks me how my ballet classes are going, remembers that I am a vegetarian, and he encouraged me to get back into weight lifting, which I have been keeping up consistently for the last couple of months. He sends our cohort supportive messages as well as quiz questions such as that you can’t spot reduce fat, something that I have seen so many people ask about on this subreddit that I’ve lost count. It has been nice to have someone to check in with regularly in addition to my doctor who is mostly focused on the big picture. It seems like it may be working for others using the app too because there are still a few members of my cohort who regularly engage in the group chat and talk about the exercise they have done that week or comment on that week’s lesson. And most importantly, I am actually seeing results this time. At now halfway through the program, I am still overweight but at least I am out of the obese category and steadily making further progress toward my goal. And this time around, I have a scale plus a watch that will still sync with an external app even once I have completed the program, so I’m pretty happy with the freebies.

So, are these insurance sponsored weight loss and diabetes prevention apps actually worth it, especially when most of the information they teach is so readily available online? Well, honestly it depends a lot on which one, but unfortunately you won’t really know what kind you are getting until you try it out. On the surface, the two I tried sounded nearly identical to each other, but in practice one tried to teach mindful eating without explaining calories which didn’t work out for me, whereas the other took the time to teach the science behind weight loss and was the one that really helped things to click for me. But if you are considering trying one out and it’s fully covered by your insurance, I would say, sure, give it a shot. For me personally, access to a dedicated health coach who won’t downvote you for asking stupid questions was a big draw (and trust me, I did have some really stupid questions I was too embarrassed to ask here…). And just having someone who is regularly checking in with you can make a big difference in staying accountable. Or if nothing else, you can always add to your collection of scales.

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I lost 63lbs over 14 months and just wanted to share what that was like for me

Hey. Just to state, I'm just gonna be going over what my life was like before, during, and after weight loss, and even things I learned/advice I'd give based on my journey. Just to state too, I have physical and mental health issues, so it limited me and has been a constant battle on this journey. Sorry if this is long and rambley haha

So I was slim my whole life, I never looked at my diet or actively worked out. Then throughout 2018-2023, I went through multiple, extensive, severe traumas. I gained weight, and I just didn't stop gaining weight. I also reached a point where I became almost completely inactive, like, I'd hit 1,000 steps per week, I never did any form of activity, I don't say this jokingly, my activity was leaving my bed/sofa to go to the kitchen to get food, going to eat was my "workout"

Then finally in 2024 life stopped beating me, I knew it wouldn't last, so I had to do something while I had this grace period. I was terrified, part of my trauma tied into the gym, but I wanted this, and my mum told me she'd be getting married in just over a year, and I knew how much I'd hate myself if I looked back on those photos and saw I was still fat, so I spent all of April seeing if I could afford the gym, then in May, I joined it

Wanna know what happened my first day? I barely managed 5 minutes on the elliptical, took like 8 breaks in those 5 minutes, then went downstairs and barely used the chest press machine for 1 minute. I went home feeling ashamed and defeated. I was expecting to quit and fail, I was so used to everything failing in my life, and I thought this was failing too. I told myself I'd go every day, but I was in so much pain from what I did I could barely move for 2 days, so I failed my daily plan immediately

Then on the third day, I got up, got dressed, and just walked on a treadmill for 30 minutes. I was mad at myself, I wanted to do so much more, but I had to accept this was my limit, I hated it, but I had no choice, at least I was back at the gym and moving. I tried going every other day, but I rarely ever did it, and when I went, every time, 30 minutes on the treadmill. Then one day, about 2-3 weeks later or so, they were all busy and my only choice was the elliptical, I was terrified to touch this thing again, but I had to do something. And I did it. 30 minutes on the elliptical

I finally got gym clothes, I was so glad I could hide how bad I was sweating, then took on my other hurdle, I used the chest press machine. I finally knew about reps, and I fought for my life as I did 24 reps at 10lbs, I was meant to do 32 but couldn't, even on the lightest weight. It was humiliating. Yet every time I went to the gym, I did it, I felt ashamed, but I did it. This was my starting point, I didn't like it, but I was moving, I was progressing, and I couldn't do that if I gave up before reaching my starting point. Around 2 months in, after feeling more settled at the gym, I decided to start calorie counting, it was taking on too much before at once, but now I felt ready for it. I never changed my diet, I just gave myself a daily calorie limit, decreased my portions, decreased my snacks. This is when I really started losing weight

As time went on, I'd increase the resistance level on the elliptical, I'd increase the weight on the chest press, then eventually I slowly added more machines, like leg extension, calf press, shoulder press, abdominal crunch, I'd increase how long I used the elliptical. 6 months in I was doing 45 minutes on the elliptical and using 4 different weights machines. I'd see all these buff people around me lifting 350kg weights, and it's getting to me. But I'd tell myself, I couldn't even use the chest press at 10lbs before, now here I am doing 35lbs, I may not be as strong as them, but I'm stronger than I was, I was moving, I was progressing

I would get down on my results, I was seeing no growth from muscle, just shrinkage from weight loss, and at first I was losing 13lbs every 2 months, then it slowed more and more. I then tried increasing my gym sessions going every day, yet it never increased my weight loss. I was disheartened by the numbers, but when I looked at my body, I saw the differences, I knew how different I felt, so I kept at it. I ignored the numbers and just went based on how my heart felt. I had a schedule of every other day, one day was a "workout day" I'd do 15 minutes on the elliptical, the chest press, calf press, leg extension, then 30 minutes on the elliptical. Then a treadmill day where I just did 45 minutes of walking, then it swapped each day

1 year in, I was in a healthy weight range , none of my clothes fit any more, I looked totally different, yet I could still see my tummy and I just wanted it gone. Also at this time I got a PT who helped me with focusing my workouts and getting me into doing free weights, then around a month in, I finally changed my diet, I stopped eating processed frozen food, usually just chicken and fries, and began eating fresh, homemade food with vegetables. I finally lost that tummy 14 months in, and this is when I finally really started seeing muscle mass on my arms and legs, like for the first time in my life, I can actually see and feel muscles. Before, I touched my body and it was just flab, just straight fat, that was it. But now I finally am seeing and feeling muscle mass

For the first time in many years, I finally have been able to touch my body and look at it again, I can sit around in my underwear without feeling disgusted, I don't feel self conscious eating in public, I'm not constantly tugging on my clothes, I just feel so much more at peace with myself. Starting it was so hard, I really thought I'd give in, but I am glad I stuck to it, and I am glad I reached this point, I put in the work and I got the reward. I lost my weight, I've gained muscle, I looked good for my mum's wedding, I achieved all my goals by being consistent and focusing on my end goal. I began this unable to use a treadmill for 5 minutes, unable to lift 10lbs, and needing a 2 days break. Now here I am thinking 10lbs feels like a feather, and using a treadmill for 45 minutes, and I do this daily

I am no expert, I made most of this up as I went along. But if I can give some advice: 1, be kind to yourself. Allow yourself to be slow, pace yourself, don't take on too much, don't give up because you feel you aren't doing enough or hitting goals, progress is progress, mental progress is progress, even thinking about wanting to change is progress. 2, be hard on yourself. It's as important as being kind, people always ask me how I lost this weight and kept it off, as they struggle with either/both, and when I tell them how, they say I am strict and they can never do it, and our results show the consequences of those different mindsets. Personally I find, the more I give into that voice, the harder it is, and the stricter I was at the start, the easier it was later on. So that's going to the gym even when you don't feel like it, sticking to your diet plan, resisting that cake/ice cream/fast food, sometimes to be kind to yourself, you need to be cruel, it's taking the hard option even when you want the easy one

3, don't compare yourself to others, compare yourself to yourself. If you are different in any way to how you started, be proud of that, even if it is just a mindset, be proud of that. You don't need to beat over 4 billion other people, you just need to beat who you were. There's only 1 person you need to be better than. 4, make it manageable. My PT almost ruined the gym for me by taking control from me, making me do a routine I couldn't keep up with, and making me upset by never meeting his goals. If you want to keep this up, you need to enjoy what you are doing, and it needs to be something you can keep going back to and do. By other people's standards, could I be doing more right now? Undoubtedly. But by my standards, am I doing what's best for me, while letting me function in other aspects of life, and enjoy what I am doing still? 100%

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Discouraging and negative friend

Does anyone else have a friend who is just so negative and jealous about your weight loss journey?

My friend and I have both been wanting to lose weight, and I finally started to seriously count macros about a month ago. I’m down about 6lbs and I’m so happy! I have 10lbs to hit my goal weight.

My friend has about 40lbs to lose, but she refuses to make any changes. She’s constantly eating high caloric meals with red meat, cheese, carbs, etc, but then will always complain that she’s bloated, having skin issues, or other gastro issues. If I ever mention a healthy swap, like cauliflower rice or almond milk, she scoffs at me and things like “ew, that’s disgusting.” How do you expect to feel better if you’re not doing anything about it? She always says it’s some crazy health issue, and it’s never ever what she eats. Like right now, she’s convinced she has parasites, yet is drinking raw milk. And I’m just like ????? The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

This morning, I mentioned that I want to get back into running because I feel like losing 6lbs will make my mile time faster, and she was sooo negative and was like “that won’t make a difference.” Okay??? Like thanks for the encouragement? I’m so frustrated! I’m trying to be encouraging by giving her tips that have worked for me and she just won’t listen and claims “oh that won’t work for my body.” Like did you even try??? Ugh!

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Getting mad about so called friend

Been on my weight loss journey since the start of this year. (5'7 female) Starting weight 220 and down 30 pounds (I've slacked a lot but atleast have maintained) i have recently started back a 600 cal deficit.

My friend since high school (we are practically like sisters) has always been big, and lately shes been telling me negative things about my weight loss

For one, shes saying i disrespect women by losing weight. Um. I'm not doing this for men, and I let her know that. At first this was just a joking type of conversation, but it started getting heated after she told me to stop eating like a supermodel. Then saying stuff like "I could never eat that little!" "You must be tired all the time!" "How can you turn down those delicious cookies?!"

I am getting annoyed, and I've told her this. She laughs it off, and I'm ready to confront her even if it means it causes distance in our friendship

How can I approach this as kindly as possible?

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