Wednesday, July 1, 2020

Is working out for 2+ hrs hurting my weight loss?

Hi all,

So I'm on my own fitness journey and I've lost so far 31 lbs (woo!). I have another 35 I wish to drop but I'm starting to hit small plateaus. I've restricted my calories further for few days to help nudge the scale and have been doing well but my goal has shifted a bit as my body changes.

Brief background: I started with heavy weight training and then moved into intense cardio. I actually did the first month of insanity. I'm now doing more of a freestyle and do what feels right to my body. I've gotten into yoga and have reintroduced some strength training.

Now, my goal has shifted from building muscle and shedding fat to leaning and shedding fat. I want to continue building muscle, but not bulky muscle (I stretch a lot), and continue dropping my fat mass. I'd appreciate some advice and tips.

Currently my regimen is about 5 days a week in a row of working out for about 2 and a half hrs (I have a lot of energy haha). I start with a light warmup, then do strength HIIT, then abs, then cardio, then yoga/deep stretching.

I was wondering if I'm decreasing my chances of progress or if I'm on the right track. I don't know if I'm doing enough, maybe I need to up the cardio? Is it possible for me to shed fat and lean out/tone at the same time? Should I be including more rest days for more progress to happen? I'm worried I might be doing all this work for nothing.

Sorry if this post is all over the place, I appreciate any feedback. :)

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In praise of fitness trackers

Like many people here, I have an on-again off-again relationship with weight loss. I was very fit in my 30s but a motorcycle crash (and 2 year recovery) caused me to gain 50 lbs. I lost 20 lbs once I could walk again but the rest has been difficult. I go through (year-longish) phases of hopelessness and then equally long phases of keeping at it. Then Covid19 hit, I was out of work, and I didn't get off the couch for 2 months. I ate and ate and ate and I didn't do a bit of exercise. Not good. I was worried about my health but was simply too scared to weigh myself. Then something magical happened.

In late April my 12 yr old said she wanted to start jogging. WHAT? WOW! OK! She's a couch potato so this was a VERY welcome surprise. And it was all I needed to break me out of my funk. We started the Couch to 5K (C25K) program the very next week. We are now 9 weeks into the Under Armor 16 week program and it's been great. Now, I HAAAAATE jogging, but this program increases the jogs and decreases the walks so gently that we never feel overwhelmed. And I can't let my daughter down, so even when I don't feel like it, we do it.

At this point you might be wondering, "Why is this post titled 'In praise of fitness trackers'?" In order to even do C25K, we needed a timer (you walk then jog every few minutes so you're constantly checking the time). So I bought a fitness tracker. At first I just used it as a timer. But a few days later I started looking at my steps and became obsessed with getting 10,000 every day. Sometimes I go out at 11pm and walk around the neighborhood if I'm short for the day (it resets at midnight). A couple weeks later I started logging my food with the app. This was HUGE. The app makes it really easy to track calories. The cool thing is, the app tells you exactly how many calories under or over you are at that instant. So you can adjust your habits real time. At the end of the day, if I've been good (I kept my eating in check and/or exercised a lot that day) I reward myself with desert. If I haven't been good, then I feel like I didn't earn it and I better try harder the next day.

And I finally got on the scale this morning and I was 5 lbs LIGHTER than I was in March. Woo-hoo!

A lot of this is common knowledge and many of you are probably rolling your eyes. But I hope at least ONE person reads this and starts tracking steps / exercise / calories.

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It was so much easier to lose weight when my scale wasn’t working

January 1st of this year, I decided to start tracking my calories, eating healthier, and trying to lose weight. I set my calorie limit to 1200 and stuck to it, weighing myself every morning for accountability.

For a month, nothing happened. I just couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t working. I figured I must be doing something wrong. Underestimating my calories (I don’t have a food scale), not logging something, sodium intake, etc. I made myself crazy trying to figure out why it wasn’t working. I tracked everything, overestimated portion sizes, stopped eating out, cut down on carbs, cut out everything except black coffee/tea and water, ate more vegetables, started walking a certain number of steps every day...

Nothing worked.

It was so frustrating. I was on Reddit every day, looking at people’s success stories, scouring every post and comment for tips and following all of them, doing research on nutrition and healthy weight loss the entire time. I even made sure to do it healthily because I read that unhealthy weight loss is less likely to work and can make you gain! If it was a weight loss strategy I was doing it, and I followed every instruction to the letter. I didn’t cheat, I didn’t eat anything “secretly” without logging it, even when it put me over. I just could not for the life of me figure out. I figured I just wasn’t the kind of person who could lose weight. Maybe I had a health condition. Maybe I was just even lazier than I thought. But I figured, hey, I wasn’t gaining weight. And with my new diet, I felt way better than I ever had. I had more energy, better focus, and my skin was clearing up. Even my period cramps got milder. Might as well stick to it.

So I gave up.

I didn’t even bother weighing myself every day for the next month. I still weighed myself about once a week, with a glimmer of hope for the elusive “whoosh” effect that I kept hearing about. But one week passed, them two, then three, and I never saw the magic drop.

I just kept tracking my calories and did my best to stay under 1200, even though I was secretly pretty sure I wasn’t, because I wasn’t losing anything, and that’s scientifically just not possible. And I figured if I was already tracking so consistently and still not losing, if I stopped tracking I’d probably balloon back out way past what I even thought was possible.

Anyways, then one day my friend came over and wanted to weigh herself, and that’s when I learned that scales don’t work on carpet.

She brought it into the bathroom and we both weighed ourselves and I had lost a THIRD of my goal!!

I can’t describe the feeling, you guys.

It was better than sex. Better than drugs. Better than every piece of junk food I did not eat. When I saw the number on that scale, I was flying. Cloud Nine. Pure heaven.

But even better, by then my weight loss didn’t even feel like a diet anymore. It was just a habit. The next third of my goal weight loss practically melted off over the next few months.

But then, I don’t know what happened.

Maybe I got too confident. Maybe it’s just that the last ten pounds are notoriously sticky. But it’s been about six months since I started “dieting”, and I’m more than two thirds of the way there and NOTHING. The scale has just stopped moving. (And I know it works this time!) Except now that I’ve gotten used to seeing the numbers drop, it’s SO much harder to stick to it without that motivation. And since I’ve undone most of the health problems I had, the motivation of feeling better isn’t really there either, since I consistently feel good now and it’s hard to remember how bad I used to feel. Even when I have junk food days now, my body is so much better equipped to handle it that I just bounce back and don’t really feel the after effects of it enough to keep me from snacking anymore. Especially since now that I’m so close to my goal weight, it’s easier to justify a late-night snack or bit of junk food that I wouldn’t have allowed myself back when my scale wasn’t working and I was just desperate to get unstuck from my state of perma-fat.

Anyways, I don’t really know what this post is. Could be a cry for help, or just a vent of frustration. I’ve heard of plateaus before and I know they’re a thing that happens, but I didn’t realize just how hard they are mentally.

Without the quick, constant changes in the direction I like (lol), it is SO hard to be happy with myself or focus on anything else except for where I can cut more calories or what I’m doing wrong this time. Except that this time, I’ve already made all the changes I can make- anything I cut out now just tips me into “unhealthy” dieting strategies, which inevitably leads me to binge later. Either way, I’m frustrated, unhappy, and the scale still isn’t moving.

I wish I could go back to when I was still naive and thought I could use my scale on the carpet. It took so much of the numbers game out of the equation and made it easier for my weight loss to stay in the background as more of a lifestyle change, rather than the sole focus of my life. But I can’t take my weight out of the equation anymore. Now that I know that I can lose weight, I’m just not, it’s making me hate myself and dieting altogether.

I’m also a little worried that if I’m this unhappy now, how am I gonna feel when I do actually hit my goal weight? (If I ever even do get there at this point, lmao.) I’ve gotten hooked on the feeling of losing.

I love dieting. I love the process of losing weight. This whole journey has given me focus, and confidence. I posted on here a couple days ago about losing motivation and the advice I got was mostly to just eat at maintenance for a while and reset.

And while I do think that’s good advice, I HATED doing it. I hated how much it felt like I was eating. I hated the lack of self-discipline, how it felt like I was giving up rather than pushing myself to just get through this last little bit and finish something for once in my life. I hate how indulgent it feels. And I hate the pressure of it - if I go a little bit over my calorie limit while it’s set to losing, I know that it’s not enough to gain weight, or most of the time to even maintain so I would still be losing, just slightly less. But when it’s set to maintenance, I know that that’s a hard limit. If I go over, I’m not still losing or maintaining - I’m gaining. So when I do get close or occasionally go over, it’s so much easier to get discouraged and completely give up, and binge. Which leads to me hating myself even more, and the spiral starts again. And all of this has made me realize... I never want to maintain. And I don’t really know how that’s gonna work out in the long run, because I also don’t want to end up as a skeleton. That’s not a good look for me. So... yeah, there’s that.

So now I’m trying to lose again but it’s just not working. And maintaining also isn’t working. And I really don’t want to gain. And overall I’m just frustrated and don’t know what to do and long story short I HATE PLATEAUS. I thought losing weight would make me feel better, and that when I hit my goal I would be more confident with myself and the way I look. But the closer I get, the less happy I am. (Especially now that I’ve stopped getting closer, lmao.) Everyone talks about how much better they feel once they’ve lost the weight. No one told me this would happen.

If you’ve read this far, thanks for bearing with me. Also, wtf should I do? How do I get back on track in a healthy, sustainable way, like it was before I figured out how to use the stupid scale?

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NSV i now enjoy food in a completely different way.

So before i went onto weight loss, the only enjoyment i got out of food was the amount and the taste. The more and tastier it was, the better the food was.

Now i realize that there is so much more to enjoy with food. I dont enjoy eating an entire 150g back of chips anymore, or taking big scoops of icecream. I enjoy eating food, knowing that the food im eating is helping me get healthy, there is another part to it now. A psychological part to it. When i eat and i realize this food is helping me the entire experience of that food becomes 100x better.

Today i bought a 40g bag of chips, around 210kcal. Thats not alot for a snack and wont push me over my daily calories. Just knowing that i ate that, and ill still lose weight made the entire experience of eating those chips better. Now its so that i might even enjoy eating less amount of food than i would if i had more, because i know its helping me. I think about this everytime i eat a snack or anything, and i realize that when i weigh myself at the end of the week all the food ive eaten and enjoyed is what has helped me lose weight that week.

This means i dont see eating snacks as cheating at all, i honestly dont like calling it cheating because i guess it kind of carries the connotation that what im doing is wrong. What i am doing is satiating a need i have for sweets or whatever while still losing weight. Im helping myself, not destroying for myself.

Now this is just how i see it ofcourse, feel free to share your own thoughts!

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I am finally done losing weight - One year cut - With PICS

Hello all,

First and foremost, I wanted to thank you all. You've been such a motivation, inspiration, and added to my confidence as I started this journey.

The amazing battles many of you have faced gave me courage to start this endeavor, and I could NOT have done it without the help and support of this sub.

After a year of cutting using CICO (June '19 to now) and lifting (Oct - April), I have finally hit my ultimate weight loss weight.

On June 15th of 2019, I weighed 340lb. I made a posted back then to mention how I would be attempting to change my life after going through an intensively debilitating tragedy with my family. How my life needed to change...

I started CICO. Used MFP and an online tdee calculator, and got to work. I didn't let up, and it became an obsession. I still allowed myself to have the occasional cheat day every once in a blue moon, but I still tracked it. There were pretty rare, because I knew at the end of the day, it would set me back.

My first progress pics were in Sept. I didn't see much change, but I was 40-50lb lighter. I could feel it. My clothes were starting to get looser, and I under 300lb for the first time in a long time.

I kept going, and in October, I started lifting, because I didn't want to lose muscle. I upped my protein, started lifting and did that religiously 3 days a week until the beginning of April.

I was hitting milestones. Down to 250lb. Down 100lb. Down to 212lb (my weight when I went to college gag 11 or so years ago). Then I finally broke 200lb for the first time in my adult life. I didn't think it possible.

But, after a long ass year from June 15th 2019 to July 1st 2020 (today), I have lost 151lb, down from a 42"+ pants size to a 31" waist, wearing a 2xl shirt (barely) to swearing a Small, and being able to run for the first time in my adult life without endangering my knees. I'm actually training for a 5k on July 18th. It sucks.

I couldn't have done this without all of you. Thank you so much, and I'm finally happy to say that I am no longer cutting or losing weight. It's now time for me to start my lean bulk. The goal is to gain about 25lb by the end of December, then I'll start my cutting cycle down to 10% bodyfat.

I certainly have loose skin, which shows up as "lean mass" during my DEXA scan. It's really interesting, because I look at my loose skin, and I feel fat. I see fat. I don't see muscle, because it's all covered. But my DEXA came in at 13.1%, and apparently that's because I have more loose skin than I thought... At least, that's what the guy said.

Anyway, I'm rambling. Thank you all so much, I look forward to seeing more here. And while I'm done cutting right now, I want to stay and encourage the best I can, because if I can do it, anyone can.

I love you all!

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I'm no longer morbidly obese!

Today I stepped on the scale at 262.4, which for my height means that my BMI is under 40 for the first time in over a decade. At the beginning of the pandemic, I weighed in at 318, and back in February, I remember tipping the scale at 333. For the past 10 years, I had been maintaining a weight in the 310-340 range, and the pandemic was the kick in the ass that I finally needed. Hearing about how obese people have worse outcomes, combined with the fact that everything locked down really motivated me to use the forced change in my lifestyle with the lockdown to my advantage. My main hobby before this was playing poker in public card rooms, and they closed all my card rooms! So now I had to find a new hobby, which I decided was going to be focusing on my health. Here are some things that have helped me.

  1. An incredibly supportive wife. She has been on her own weight loss journey starting a year before I did and already lost 60 lbs when I started, and is now on the home stretch of her journey. She waited until I was ready, and has been incredibly supportive the whole time. If you don't have a SO, find a friend or a close family member or this subreddit to motivate and support you. I could not do this alone.
  2. Greek Yogurt, Greek Yogurt bars and air-popped popcorn are my jam. Greek yogurt is my typical breakfast, and those 120 calories fill me up until my lunch, and the 100 calorie Greek Yogurt ice cream bars are tasty and filling. High protein is definitely the way to go. My "indulgence" is air popped popcorn. I invested in a countertop air popper back in May, but if you don't have one, you can use your microwave as an air popper, cover a glass bowl with a plate for about 4 minutes and youll have nice air popped popcorn. I know it's not the most nutritious thing in the world, but it allows me to have handfulls of food to snack on for only 110 calories. My wife jokes that I'm keeping "big popcorn" in business.
  3. Exercising 5 days/week and slowly making those workouts longer and more intense. I started with just 2 mile walks when I was at my heaviest at the start of the pandemic, going all the way up to my new record of 8.64 miles, and running about 25% of the time during those walks. My "normal" days are now doing 4 miles and running about 40% of the time. The progress that I have been able to make here has been tremendous and just unbelievable to think that at over 300 lbs, I was able to run for short distances, and now that I'm well under, I can do so much more.
  4. CICO using MFP, and a Fitbit to track HR and TDEE. My resting HR has gone from 65 to 53, and my exercise routine is a big part of that reason. MFP started me at 1950 cal/day and now I'm down to about 1720. As those numbers have declined I have been cutting down portion sizes during meals and usually hit between 1500-2200 cal/day (usually the 2200 on the weekends, and not every weekend). With my activity level and current weight and age, my TDEE averages around 3,800 cal giving me a good deficit. There's no magic bullet, do what works for you whether you're following a specific diet or just want to do CICO, measuring all your food is a must.

Of note: I can now comfortably wear a 2xl for the first time in over a decade. None of the pants I wore to work when I was still going to the office fit me! I'm long overdue for a wardrobe update anyway, and plan to go shopping in August before we go back to the office in September. I still have a long way to go, and I'm super motivated by the progress that others have made. I hope I can provide the same to others on this sub. I'll report back again once I leave the Obese category, which is about another 35 pounds. Only 63 pounds away from my goal!

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Quarantine gain of ...20lb. Yikes!

I really thought I’d never be someone who would have an upswing on their weight loss journey. I was all like ‘it’s too easy to eat well now!’ ‘I’m never going back to eating like shit!’ ‘I feel so good, why would I fuck this up!’. Past me, you absolute fool!

I moved back in with my Mum 14 weeks ago because covid, quarantine, you get it. We’ve been keeping each other company through this whole thing, and yeah, it’s generally been nice to be around my family all the time again, but goddamn. The food here. THE FOOD HERE.

I’ve written on here previously about how it is basically impossible to eat my regular diet while living with my mum. Mostly that ‘one portion’ (more like 3!!) of her dinners is always like 1000 calories. Combine that with me having a lot of time to hone in my baking skills and sitting at my regular 1200 is ROUGH.

I can OMAD, whatever. The issue is more that she makes shit that is the least satisfying and satiating way to eat 1000 calories. Like, vegetables soaked in butter. Come on!! It makes them taste worse, and there’s an extra 200 calories for no. fucking. reason. Also, I am never eating another bowl of pasta again after I go back to my own house. I never thought I’d actually miss eating a bowl of steamed vegetables for dinner.

I digress. I got so tired of starving myself to fit these ridiculous meals in my schedule, so tired of worrying about calories, so tired of not being able to drink, so tired of this whole situation that I just gave up for a month. And then another month. And then another.

I’ve gained like, 18lb back. My self esteem is probably the worst it has ever been, and that is really saying something. I feel ashamed, I can’t look at myself in the mirror. I feel like I’m killing myself with every bite but for some goddamn reason I can’t get myself to stop.

I know that the second I go back to living alone and having control of my diet, I’ll be fine, I’ll lose it all again. But that won’t be anytime soon. My town is now locked up for another month and I’ll be working from home for 8+ more weeks at a minimum. I’m trapped here.

My motivation is gone. My good habits are gone. It’s my own fault. I’m annoyed as hell about it. I want to go back to losing but there has never been a more monumental task.

My one year anniversary is this week. And I’m right back where I started.

Sorry for the rant. I think if someone who isn’t my stupid no-self-control brain tells me off, it might help. Please slap some sense into me.

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