Tuesday, October 6, 2020

Frustration with friends during weight loss.

So, my weight loss style has been very "Eh, are you comfy where you are? Take a break." Which honestly, has worked great for me. I've been working on weight loss for about 5 years total-- I lost about 40 lbs intitially, (227-187), and paused there for a couple years. I recently picked it back up, lost a bit of gain I got over covid, and dropped down to hit my 50 lbs lost mark.

Suffice to say, I've been extremely body positive the whole way down, given myself ample time, not gotten obsessed, etc. And still, my friends seem to be split into two camps:

One thinks I'm on the path to developing an eating disorder and borderline fatphobic

The other is uncomfortable with any mention of weight loss.

It's getting frustrating, because as I hit goals, I have no one I actually know to share the little joys with. I hit a milestone recently and got kudos from strangers, but everyone I know basically giving me warnings. It's 50 lbs over 5 years.... it just is not unhealthy or giving any reasons to throw up flags.

It's just so frustrating, because I'm taking this so, so slowly. It's a meandering wander downwards. I take breaks. I love my body the whole way down. And on top of it all, I have had an eating disorder-- compulsive eating tied in with my OCD. So feeling free from that and able to happily eat a normal portion size/not snack all day long, is actually a huge, freeing accomplishment from my disorder.

Basically the last person I talked to about it asked me to stop, which is fair-- they've had their own complicated history and I'm certainly happy to accommodate their wishes there. That's not a big deal, it's just the fact that they were the last. The swath of everyone else in my life being weird about it until I don't have anyone to celebrate with, is the part that sucks.

It just sucks that it seems like no matter how moderate and healthy your attitudes are, no matter how slow you take it, so many people seem like they think working to lose weight is something to treat as if you're on the borderline for a personal disaster. Some actively try to sabotage. And the rest just seem like they don't know what to say.

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I lost weight then gained it back now I’m too depressed to lose it

So I’ve been battling with depression my whole life. I’m 29. Around the age of 18 I lost 20 kilos because I was so depressed I stopped eating, stopped doing anything but like stare at a wall all day.

My mom had to put pills in my coffee to get me to talk again. I lost weight, the medicines made me more balanced and I found a job around at age 20. I joined a gym and maintained my weight, watched what I ate, etc.

Around 2016, I started to gain weight. Earlier if I even gained a kilo I’d be on red alert but in 2016 I stopped caring. I let go and fell back into depression. I overate, drank a lot of Pepsi and stuff and basically got a leg injury that prevented me from working out. I gained the 20 kilos back and got diabetes. I fell back into a depression spiral.

Now I am trying to get out of depression and lose weight. I have joined a weight loss program a while back. It basically is a place where you log food and water intake, have an exercise routine, get a diet and exercise coach and have weekly calls with them. I feel lucky to be able to afford it but I am like totally demotivated.

I don’t know how to motivate myself to lose weight? How do I overcome the depression? I go to a therapist and take daily medication that help stabilise moodswings. I can’t even get myself to care about my diabetes. What do I do?

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I think the most helpful thing for my weight loss journey has been realizing that I’m not going to gain all my weight back if I have a bad week or weekend.

I’ve been losing weight kinda rapidly lately. I don’t have an eating disorder, but I recently started adderall (shout out to figuring out you have ADHD in law school) and I’m kind of a smoker so I just haven’t been eating. Not the healthiest way to lose weight, but I just can’t make myself eat more than a bowl of cereal in the morning and bag of chips in the evening. Thankfully, I’ve got some extra lbs to spare. I’m not underweight. Anyway, I’m down 13lbs.

I eat normally on the weekends because I don’t take my adderall unless I’m doing school work and smoke weed occasionally, but last week everything kind of caught up to me and I was eating pretty badly. I was depressed, stressed, overwhelmed, not taking my adderall. Plus this weekend having a date and a girl’s night. And smoking some tree.

I haven’t been on my scale religiously and I don’t really want to weigh myself because I hate to see it move up even though I know it’s sodium and bloating and water weight. But it really helps me to know that I’m not going to gain back 5lbs in a week. Maybe 1 or 2, but even that would take some pretty extreme eating. It makes me feel better to know that all my progress isn’t going to come crashing down if I have a “break.”

So I guess that’s my message to everyone. Keep counting your calories, and keep yourself accountable. Give it your honest to goodness best effort. But remember that you won’t gain everything back if you crash for a couple days. Don’t drive yourself to panic if you spend a week eating trash and drinking. Don’t get on your scale if it’s bad for your mental health but know if you’re tracking it consistently, that uptick on your scale is maybe a 1lb or 2 gained back, but it’s also just a physiological reaction to eating that trash and way too much of it.

Continue to try and love yourself and forgive yourself. Drink some water. Get some fiber in you. And then keep pushing. It’ll be okay.

Edit: also just an edit because I realized I’ve actually lost 13lbs, not 10 and I just want to celebrate going from 162 to 149. Finally back in a healthy BMI, and only 15lbs to my goal weight. Hell yeah.

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I hate exercise. There, I said it

I know, I know. Exercise is good for you, exercise can help with weight loss, muscle development, balance and strength and loads of other things, and exercise has nothing but benefits and zero downsides.

But I hate it. I hate pretty much all forms of physical activity save from walking. I hate how I feel when I sweat. I hate how everything hurts for days when I exercise even for a few minutes. I hate that 30 seconds of exercise feels like 30 minutes to me because I'm so eager for it to be over with before I even begin doing it. I hate that unless I do seriously hardcore exercise, I'm only going to burn about 20 calories at a time, so it feels completely not worth the effort when I can just eat 20 fewer calories and sit on my butt.

Maybe I just haven't found a form of physical activity I like doing because I imagine if a certain kind of exercise is fun, it won't feel like exercise. Problem is I haven't found one that's even remotely enjoyable. I've tried many things and I hate all of it. I hate yoga, I hate cardio, I hate running, I hate/cannot do dancing, I hate swimming (mostly because I hate being seen in even a t-shirt and shorts) and I hate aerobics. I can usually manage to half-ass pilates and lifting weights, but after about 5 minutes I am so done for about the next 10 years.

For me, getting out of bed in the morning feels like a workout. Plus I have a weak ankle that's prone to rolling and I'm often scared to do anything that would put additional strain on that foot. And when I do force myself to exercise, I do it so half-assed that there's no way it's making any kind of a difference anyway.

I'm kind of afraid to go to a doctor for my stalled weight loss because I know they're going to tell me I have to exercise and I'm going to argue with them about it because I am well aware that exercise is absolutely NOT necessary for weight loss. Helpful, yes, but weight loss can be achieved exclusively through diet. I know because I've done it in the past and my current loss has occurred without the aid of working out. As far as I'm aware, diet = weight loss and exercise = fitness.

Any other lazy lumps in the house? Not really looking for advice, but just wondering how alone I am out on this limb and maybe hear how people's weight loss has progressed without exercising if anyone wants to share.

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UPDATE: 1000 days since starting my journey!

1000 days ago, I stepped on a new bathroom scale, freshly delivered from Amazon. It read 214 lb. Given my height of 170 cm (5'7"), this results in a BMI (body mass index) of 33.6, firmly in the "obese" category. I resolved to return to a healthy weight range, defined as under 160 lb for a person of my height. I have been holding steady at around 155 lb the past couple of months now.

Photo comparison of bathroom scales

It has literally been a series of ups and downs the entire time. Body weight as reported by a scale will naturally fluctuate by several pounds over the course of a single day. That variation is caused primarily by food and water intake, and subsequent elimination of said products. Thus came one of my major rules:

Rule #1: Individual weigh-ins don't matter, look at the long-term trend.

Chart showing 3000 data points

I suspect this is where most people fall off the wagon. They cannot see past the number on the scale and miss out on the big picture. It is hard to have enough patience to keep doing this for weeks and months and years, but you have to get through it.

A popular saying goes "weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint". True results will not be apparent immediately. Any initial drop in weight (probably just water loss) is like dashing off at the sound of the starting pistol. Sure, you might be ahead of everyone else for the first few minutes, but you won't be able to keep it up, and eventually others will pass you. You might run out of steam and not even finish the marathon. Slow and steady wins the race.

My old swim trunks before I lost 8-10 inches

Another useful analogy pertains to the method by which long-lasting weight loss is achieved. I see a lot of news articles and blogs and posts on social media unequivocally proclaiming that "[METHOD] does not work, here's why!!!". The truth is, any method can work, as long as it follows the laws of physics and biology.

Your body accumulates fat because it needs to store excess energy. That energy comes from food, and we often eat more than our body needs to stay alive and perform its functions. Conversely, your body will burn fat if it requires more energy than is immediately available. Therefore, the simple equation is "use more energy than you eat". That's pretty much it:

Rule #2: A consistent, sustained energy deficit will result in weight loss.

Exactly how you do that is why the "weight management" market has surpassed $250 billion per year worldwide. Compare this to the global movie and television industry, which only made a paltry $100 billion last year. There is a bewildering array of products and services and information out there. A lot of it is crap, but some of it works. Separating the wheat from the chaff is a huge part of the battle.

This leads me to the third major lesson:

Rule #3: The best weight loss plan is the one you can stick to.

It doesn't matter if you do keto or paleo or raw food, whether you run or bike or swim or lift. Maybe you use this as a reason to switch to a vegan lifestyle. Or maybe this is your excuse to cook more at home and eat out less. As long as you obey rule #2 and keep rule #1 in mind, you will see results.

I compare weight loss to debt reduction. You want your debt and your weight to go down. You also want your bank account and your health to go up. There are a zillion ways to achieve that. Maybe you need some tips on budgeting your spending. Maybe it's just a mater of not browsing Amazon so often. Getting a raise at work helps too. Or maybe pursuing your dream and being your own boss is the way to go. Perhaps you're looking into investing in real estate or playing the stock market. Bonds? Mutual funds? RRSPs? Commodities? Cryptocurrency?

The point is, all of the above methods can work. They can also fail spectacularly. There is not a single one that is either guaranteed to work or guaranteed to fail. You just have to find something that works for you, and then stick with it.

It's perfectly okay to try different methods, or even have a few on the go at once. I would hate doing keto, so I don't do it. But portion control generally works well for me, and I also will practice casual intermittent fasting on some days. Yet other days I may graze on snacks all day. Some weeks I'll avoid meat entirely, but then I'll follow it up the next week with a trip to the local BBQ joint and roast a bacon-wrapped turkey at home. I could eat nothing but ice cream and still lose weight, as long as rule #2 is satisfied.

Now, I don't recommend the ice cream diet because of rule #4:

Rule #4: A healthy diet does not imply weight loss, or vice-versa.

You might think you're getting off to a good start by giving up alcohol for a month and drinking only juice. I hate to tell you, but there are just as many calories in orange juice as in a typical beer. Yes, juice might be healthier in other ways, but it doesn't necessarily mean you'll lose weight. And that ice cream diet? I could lose weight on it (again, see rule #2), but it certainly won't be healthy over the long run!

Finally, this is something I've mentioned many times in the past:

Rule #5: It is easier to eat less than it is to exercise more.

You need to do both, but math and physics suggest that if you only have the willpower to do one thing at a time, eat less. Think about how easy it is to eat 1500 kcal in a meal. I could do that in about 15 minutes while lounging around on the couch in my PJs. But to burn off 1500 kcal means going outside, getting on the bike and riding 60 km. That'll take 3 to 4 hours. So think to yourself: how often do you eat a delicious meal, and how often do you bike 60 km? As they say, "you can't outrun your fork" and "weight loss starts in the kitchen". It's true!


I'm down 60 lb since I started, now hovering around 155 lb. I've stopped daily logging of my food and my weight for the past two months to see how consistently I can stay within this range. The lowest I recorded was 142 lb on July 21. I may try to aim for 145 lb, as that is comfortably in the middle of the healthy weight range, allowing for roughly 15 lb leeway in either direction.

My methods have changed over the past three years, but I've always stuck to the above five rules, restated as follows:

  1. Weigh yourself every day, and keep an eye on the trend.
  2. Burn more energy than you take in.
  3. Find what works for you and stick with it.
  4. Don't forget about your overall health.
  5. Be mindful of what you eat and how much you eat.

There are no guarantees of success, but if you also want to lose some weight, following these rules I believe will greatly increase your chances.

Tower of old pants I donated after I lost the weight

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One tiny victory

I feel disgusting. I started my weight loss journey up again on Saturday. Eating 1300 calories and walking an hour every day. Not hard. For some reason last night I just lost it and ate almost a whole ass box of spicy cheese its. I said, I won't walk tonight because driving to my hospital appointment so far away exhausted me, but I'll walk tomorrow. Today, I was wanting to say 'I already ruined my diet today with the cheese-its, may as well not walk. Well. No. I just walked to the gym and got the 60 minutes of walking in. Looked at myself... The box is 2250 calories. My TDEE is 4100 calories per day. I eat 1300 calories as part of the diet. I still can LOSE 500 calories today if I just... go to the gym. And walk. It's not the fast loss I wanted. And I feel bad for cheating a day. But I'm not letting one off day and my stress ruin this for me again. It's the first time I said no to just giving up and saying 'eh' for the day. Sounds pathetic when I read it back, but it's something. Baby steps! I want to hit a whole week without breaking, first.

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HELP WANTED: weight loss tips

So this whole summer I have been working to lose some weight I’ve gained as a result of a few months of depression and birth control increasing my appetite. I am 21 years old (female) at 5 foot tall and I weight 130lbs. Ideally, I sit around 110-115lbs. I exercise 4-5 times a week, incorporating both cardio and strength training. In addition to this, I also do yoga at night. I eat generally healthy and I’m a lover of healthy food. I’m worried that I may be overeating, but I’m not sure how to regulate it. I’m in a bit of a bind because I’m leery about calorie counting, but I also recognize that this might be a necessity. I’m wondering if you all have any tips that helped you start and continue your weight loss journey? Any diets that are more beneficial than others? Is calorie counting the best bet? I am so desperate and I truly appreciate all help!!!

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