Sunday, March 7, 2021

I need to change

Hi everyone,

Been a member of this sub for a while, I love reading stories of how far people have come on their weight loss journeys, every time I read them I think I really need to try, but after a few days I lose the motivation.

I’m 26 about 5”9 weighing in at 330lbs. I know, it’s really not good. I’ve struggled with my weight my entire life, in school I topped 16st but managed to lose it by basically hardly ever eating and exercising a lot, my motivation at the time was I was fed up of being bullied.

This is the biggest I have ever been, and I know it’s only a small amount of time now before I end up with a serious health condition (diabetes) because of it. A few years ago I tried keto, and was doing really well and then got pregnant, I had heard that losing weight during pregnancy wasn’t good so I went back on carbs. I still ended up losing weight during pregnancy, bad morning sickness. Once I had my little girl in May 2019 I’ve just piled on the lbs, then all these lockdowns too I’ve been working from home and hardly exercising at all.

I cannot stand the way I look now, and I know that even once I’ve lost all the weight I will have so much excess skin. I’m scared of how big I am, and scared of how gross I’ll still look when all the weight is gone.

I need to do this, I kept promising I would when I had my baby, and I just never properly tried. I don’t want her to ever end up like me, or even motherless when I eat myself into an early grave. My size has been impacting my relationship for years, my partner is loyal and loving he would never intentionally upset me, but I know he is so worried for me. To try and motivate me to lose weight he said I need to get down to 17st before we can start trying again, I was annoyed at first, but I get why, he knows how much I want a big family and that it should motivate me to lose weight. It did at first, but then again I just stopped. I have no excuses really, I’m ashamed of myself, when I really think about it I often cry so I guess I try to just push it out of my mind.

Any advice you can give me to stick with it is hugely appreciated. Thank you for reading.

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What I Learned After Taking a Diet Break

When I started trying to lose weight in earnest, I wanted to put everything into it - unlike the previous attempts, this was gonna be my do or die moment. Fortunately, by educating myself and having all the time in the world to meal plan and workout (a small personal benefit of the pandemic), things clicked this time and I managed to lose 80lbs between June 2020 and January 2021 (before and after pics here).

By the time January rolled around, my weight loss slowed to a crawl. Even as I continued to lower my intake in relation to my lowering weight, it became harder and harder to make progress. I was stubborn, though, and the idea of taking a break felt like giving up or giving in to laziness. Finally, I started to feel weak during workouts and my performance suffered, so I decided to eat at maintenance during February and resume my weight loss in March (note: I maintained my same work out routine the entire time). Now that I've been eating at a deficit for a week, there's a few things I've noticed:

  • You know that woosh of weight loss you see when you first start out? You can do that again after a break. I lost 7.5lbs my first week back at a deficit

  • "Normal" portions seem so much bigger after eating at a deficit for so long. I was able to eat a balanced diet while also drinking normal soda and eating candy a few times a week. It's reassuring to know that when I'm satisfied with my weight and eat at maintenance for good, I can eat junk food every once in a while because I know how to budget calories and adjust my other meals to accommodate for something high in calories

  • If you're worried about gaining on maintenance, know that you can restrict calories for a couple of days and get back to your ideal weight. I gained 4lbs in February (probably mostly water weight), and it took two days to get back to my lowest weight

  • It's easier to eat at a significant deficit when you have a defined timeline; sometimes it's hard to stick to eating at a deficit when you don't know when the diet is going to end and you might start falling off and going over on your budget. I know I was more and more resistant to eating below 2000cal/day as I hit month eight of weight loss. Now that I've taken a break, I'm comfortable eating 1700cal/day until my end date in June

  • You may be hungry again when you end your break and are eating significantly less. Thankfully, that goes away, as it always does when you get used to eating at a deficit

  • Eating at maintenance did fix my workout issue. I was more energized when I ate more, and now at my current calorie budget, I can still workout at peak performance

In closing, hopefully this helps people who are stubborn like me feel better about taking a break from eating at a deficit. It's not giving up or wasting time - it may actually make the process MORE efficient! I'm also going to try out "refeeding" by eating a controlled increase of carbs every other Sunday in order to encourage leptin production, which will hopefully prevent plateauing. This is a different way of having a "cheat day" but staying productive.

Any other general tips for long term weight loss are welcome, and hopefully some of you find my discoveries helpful to your own weight loss journeys.

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[study] A Tour Through Google Scholar's Studies On Weight Loss Methods

I wanted to share the results of a long read through Google Scholar that I took. Hi r/loseit!

About me

Like 3 years ago I went on Keto and it was awesome, helping me go down from like 215 pounds to 170. I could do like five consecutive pull-ups for the first time without much effort beyond mixing up Keto Chow shakes each evening! (I love those things.) Co-workers commented on how great I looked! Cool.

Fast forward past a year of pretty easy maintenance, whereupon my doctor puts me on Zoloft, and I gained like twenty pounds back before ditching that for Bupropion, a much friendlier antidepressant that didn’t make me constantly ravenous. But try though I might, I had trouble getting back down to 170 with Keto-- I'm still hovering around 190.

This probably had something to do with the fact that I was living alone when I first lost the weight, and am now living with my fiancee and a number of roommates. Which makes sticking to Keto… substantially more difficult. “Hello I have prepared a delicious fruit pie”, a roommate will say, and I’ll unhinge my jaw and swallow it whole (like a python) thereby breaking ketosis. Which is a bummer.

I also have a couple of other roommates who themselves were having trouble losing weight, as was my fiancee even though she’s way more wonderful and industrious and conscientious than I am. And that inspired me to take a long, interest-fueled trip through Google Scholar, since it turns out that the efficacy of different methods of weight loss is super commonly-studied, and ours is a beautiful age where any internet asshole can search through unlimited carefully-indexed studies looking for incredibly specific nuggets of information. And I am just such an asshole.

DISCLAIMER

So, about me! I’m just a programmer, with no particular expertise in this or any other area. That means I am deeply unqualified to offer any kind of medical advice; my only qualification for doing anything is that I spent a bunch of time skimming online journal articles. So if you get inspired to try anything I talk about in this post, ask your doctor about it before you give it a shot or else you’ll die slowly, painfully, as your poor choices consume you from the inside out. And you will cry out "why did you betray me, UntrustworthyBastard" and I'll shrug and gesture at my username.

On to the studies! Let’s start out with

Non-pharmacological weight loss methods

"Non-pharmacological weight loss methods" are diet and exercise. This has been studied a lot, and these studies vary pretty dramatically in their results for reasons I'm not totally clear on. Probably they have a lot to do with how well the participants are made to adhere to the prescribed diet/exercise regimens.

Which is actually a core limitation of these studies! Most of these studies are intent-to-treat, which means they all include each participant in the study results even if the participants don’t follow the diet or do anything differently. Another way of phrasing this is that these studies measure the long-term efficacy of getting a bunch of people who want to lose weight into a room, and then telling them to go on a calorie deficit/keto diet/whatever (with accompanying pamphlets and sometimes logistical support, like buying them food), and then periodically hassling them afterward for the duration of the study.

Looked at in this light, it’s frankly impressive they were able to tease out any effect sizes at all. I would have liked a review article that broke the participants down into percentiles of weight loss-- that would give us a better idea of the range of outcomes realistically achievable-- but couldn’t find any meta-analyses that did this. Such is life.

Diet + Exercise

Weight-Loss Outcomes: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Weight-Loss Clinical Trials with a Minimum 1-Year Follow-Up - ScienceDirect

> A mean weight loss of 5 to 8.5 kg (5% to 9%) was observed during the first 6 months from interventions involving a reduced-energy diet and/or weight-loss medications with weight plateaus at approximately 6 months. In studies extending to 48 months, a mean 3 to 6 kg (3% to 6%) of weight loss was maintained with none of the groups experiencing weight regain to baseline. In contrast, advice-only and exercise-alone groups experienced minimal weight loss at any time point.

Systematic review of long-term weight loss studies in obese adults: clinical significance and applicability to clinical practice | International Journal of Obesity (nature.com)

> Dietary/lifestyle therapy provides <5 kg weight loss after 2–4 y, pharmacologic therapy provides 5–10 kg weight loss after 1–2 y, and surgical therapy provides 25–75 kg weight loss after 2–4 y.

This seems basically consistent with the previous study where over the long term diet and exercise-based interventions, for the most part, lead to 5-10 lbs of maintained weight loss.

Very-low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet v. low-fat diet for long-term weight loss: a meta-analysis of randomised controlled trials | British Journal of Nutrition | Cambridge Core

> [L]arge randomised clinical trials with long-term dietary interventions aiming weight loss showed that individuals under intensive lifestyle interventions lose about 4·8 kg( 2 , 38 ). Hence, the further reduction of 0·9 kg in the individuals assigned to a [very low carbohydrate ketogenic diet] would represent almost 20 % of the awaited weight loss achieved with long-term dietary interventions.

So tl;dr: Non-calorie-restricted ketogenic diets work marginally better than low-fat calorie-restricted diets on average, but not by much-- Keto loses you like 12 pounds, and low-fat diets lose you like 10 pounds.

This is a larger effect size than we saw in earlier studies, which could be explainable by the study length cutoff here was 1 year whereas the earlier, more pessimistic study required like four years of followup to be included in the meta-analysis (leaving more time for weight regain).

What about exercise?

Exercise

Isolated Aerobic Exercise and Weight Loss: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials - ScienceDirect

> Moderate-intensity aerobic exercise programs of 6-12 months induce a modest reduction in weight and waist circumference in overweight and obese populations. Our results show that isolated aerobic exercise is not an effective weight loss therapy in these patients. Isolated aerobic exercise provides modest benefits to blood pressure and lipid levels and may still be an effective weight loss therapy in conjunction with diets.

This, you’ll notice, pretty much aligns with the r/loseit conventional wisdom on the topic: Exercise alone tends not to do it unless you're Michael Phelps, who my fiancée tells me eats multiple tubs of ice cream each day.

So far, so depressing-- everyone here knows that if you have the industriousness and conscientiousness to stay on a consistent calorie deficit, you’ll lose weight. It's just empirically this doesn't happen to the degree most of us would want. Though don’t forget the study limitations! Intent-to-treat is a harsh mistress, and the use of averages in these study results conceals a lot of individual variation in patient response to these diets.

Anyway, on to other, more exotic (but not that exotic) methods of weight loss!

FDA-approved pharmacological interventions

Drugs!

This’ll be a pretty short list; the FDA has a very high bar for safety and efficacy for weight loss drugs, and as such has approved only 9 (?) drugs in this class for current usage, several of which are on-patent and thereby only affordable to the twelve riches members of the Saudi royal family. The FDA's conservative about approving these, since the history of weight loss medications includes shit like Fen-Phen (can kill you) and DNP (can make you go blind and then kill you; though at least this one was obvious enough that it was banned by the FDA at around the same time the FDA got the authority to ban things.)

So the FDA makes really fucking sure these days that there's nothing waiting in the weeds before approving stuff for weight loss. Oftentimes this assurance comes from jamming together drugs with a long history of safe use for other conditions (see the discussion of Contrave below), which seems sensible enough.

As for whether you’d like to take drugs for weight loss, your call-- I know a lot of people on r/loseit take pride in losing weight the natural way, and more power to them. That said, the following is the opinion of the notoriously risk-averse FDA:

> The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recommends pharmacotherapy for weight loss when lifestyle interventions (diet, exercise and behavioural therapy) have failed and the body mass index (BMI) is °30kg/m2 with no concomitant obesity-related risk factors, or if the BMI is °27 kg/m2 and the patient has at least one obesity-related risk factor.

I'm aware that this does not align with the r/loseit conventional wisdom, which mostly has it that drugs are a dangerous crutch unsuitable for long-term use (and, by implication, short-term use). Which isn't always true! Lots of drugs you can basically stay on forever (such as bupropion, a popular antidepressant). The unknown risks of doing so ultimately must be weighed against the known risks inherent to obesity, which are substantial; in that way, it's a similar cost-benefit analysis as taking drugs for any other chronic condition. I myself will probably be on acid reflux medication until the day I die, and it's super worth it.

On that cheery note: to the drugs!

Orlistat (Xenical)

> weight loss achieved was about 3% [of total body mass] greater for subjects taking orlistat than for those taking placebo.

> produces significant gastrointestinal side effects (oily faecal spotting, flatus with discharge, faecal urgency, oily stools, increased defecation, faecal incontinence, abdominal pain) in 15-30% of the patients under treatment, that tend to disappear with time if the patient adheres to a low fat diet.

Gross.

This one’s notable because almost all of the other weight loss drugs on the market do so via the mechanism of reducing appetite; this one’s an exception, in that it instead stops your body from absorbing some of the fat you eat whereupon it comes out the other side.

Let’s move on.

Phentermine+Topiramate (Qsymia)

Clinical utility of phentermine/topiramate (Qsymia™) combination for the treatment of obesity (nih.gov)

In this trial, about 8% of patients with placebo (diet + lifestyle counseling) lost >10% of their body mass; conversely, 47% of patients in the experimental group (diet + lifestyle counseling + Qsymia) lost >10% of their body mass. Note that 1% of people in the experimental group got kidney stones, so drink your water. It sounds like this is a consequence of the topiramate (at least, this appears to be a known side effect of topiramate taken alone.)

Off-label drugs for weight management (nih.gov) has a really interesting discussion of phentermine-- at the time it was approved it was under pretty serious regulatory scrutiny for its structural resemblance to meth (and thus presumed addictive potential); for this reason it was approved for short-term use only, which tends to be interpreted as up to 3 months. Post-approval studies, happily, have failed to find evidence for chemical or psychological dependence regardless of duration of use; the linked article claims:

> There was protracted opposition to re-approval from those who maintained the sympathomimetic obesity drugs that had dangerous addiction potential. No evidence of addiction had appeared during 18 years of increasingly frequent use, but the FDA re-approved them all, having silenced the opposition by announcing the drugs would be approved for short-term use only

> US physicians treating obesity [...] continued to use phentermine and the other sympathomimetic amine anorectic drugs off-label long-term. Surveys of prescribing practices among physicians treating obesity have confirmed that a majority of these physicians continue to prescribe the sympathomimetics off-label in this manner.

This is verified in a different study:

Addiction potential of phentermine prescribed during long-term treatment of obesity | International Journal of Obesity (nature.com)

> Phentermine abuse or psychological dependence (addiction) does not occur in patients treated with phentermine for obesity.

And also:

A Study of Abrupt Phentermine Cessation in Patients in a Wei... : American Journal of Therapeutics (lww.com)

> Cravings for the substance abused, the hallmark characteristic of substance dependence and withdrawal, were entirely absent in the phentermine-treated subjects. Abrupt cessation of long-term phentermine therapy does not induce amphetamine-like withdrawal. Long-term phentermine therapy does not induce phentermine cravings. Symptoms observed after abrupt phentermine cessation represent loss of therapeutic effect and are not withdrawal.

(I emphasize this part because the idea of getting addicted to something freaks me out.)

Phentermine Alone

Effects of a meal replacement system alone or in combination with phentermine on weight loss and food cravings - Moldovan - 2016 - Obesity - Wiley Online Library

> The phentermine group lost 12.1% of baseline body weight compared with 8.8% in the placebo group.

Naltrexone/bupropion (Contrave)

Contrave, a bupropion and naltrexone combination therapy for the potential treatment of obesity. - Abstract - Europe PMC

> Preliminary data demonstrated placebo-subtracted weight losses of 3 to 7% and improvements in obesity-related comorbidities and cardiovascular risk factors. The primary adverse effect leading to discontinuation of treatment was nausea.

So a bit less effective than Qsymia based on phase 3 trials, but not by much; the bright side is it’s not a stimulant if you don't like stimulants. The “off-label drugs” article above claims this is sometimes combined with Phentermine but that there is no data on how often this happens or what the results are. Which is unsatisfying.

As an aside, bupropion is just Wellbutrin, an extremely common antidepressant, and naltrexone is an anti-addiction agent they use to get people off alcohol. Naltrexone’s been on the market for 15 years, and Bupropion has been on it since like the 80s. Which makes me suspect it’s quite safe, since we’ve had decades for long-term side effects to make themselves known. Food for thought. Ask your doctor.

(Speaking of long-term effects, very early on they were concerned that Contrave might hurt long-term cardiovascular health, which luckily wasn't observed in practice. Then later they thought it might actually help cardiovascular health instead, but Orexigen fucked up the study so now we'll have to languish in ignorance forever, I guess?)

Liraglutide (Saxenda)

Apparently middling effectiveness. I’d paste some sources, but the post is getting long and this drug is like 1000 dollars a month. So maybe look into it if you shit gold. (I am, of course, joking-- shitting gold is a contraindication for Liraglutide and other GLP-1 inhibitors. Ask your doctor.)

Non-FDA-Approved Drugs

Hahahahaha you fools, do not do this

Weight Loss Surgery

I have a truly marvelous discussion of weight loss surgery that this margin is too narrow to contain.

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Almost to my weight loss goal!

28 M, 6'0", SW: 265 CW: 173 GW: 160-165

Before: https://i.imgur.com/iT8ODLQ.jpg

Current: https://i.imgur.com/JUR7RkQ.jpg

Hi everyone! First time making a post here, but I've been lurking for quite some time. Around the early part of 2018 I got out of a long relationship and was at my heaviest weight of 265.

I committed to losing weight that summer and was able to lose about 70 pounds doing IF 16:8 ~1500-1800 calories a day and getting into the gym 5 days a week doing cardio on an elliptical and lifting weights for about a half hour. I hadn't really had much experience in a gym so for my lifting I would alternate between upper body/ lower body and do 4 sets of 8 on 5 different machines/ exercises.

After the summer I went back to school and stopped working out and watching what I ate and subsequently gained back 10-15 pounds. The next summer came and I once again committed to getting back into the gym and losing some more weight. Although I did manage to lose the weight I gained, my eating habits were all over the place and I stayed around 195-200 pounds.

Fast forward to March 2020 and COVID hits. I move back in with my parents to save some money and pick up running because gyms are all closed and I have unlimited free time essentially. I ran my first 10k in July and then my first half-marathon in September!! This time around I'm not doing any lifting though. At this point I'm steadily losing weight from running and IF 16:8 and managed to get down to around 170 pounds. Then about a month after my half-marathon I pulled a muscle and was off for a few months, subsequently gaining back 15 pounds.

I picked up running again in December, and now am at the point where I'm lifting 5 days a week and running 25 miles a week. I still would like to lose some more weight, and get somewhere between 160-165. Once I get there I can switch my focus to lifting more, eating in a surplus, and putting on some muscle!

The biggest thing I've learned throughout all of this is that weight loss is not always a linear progression. There are lots of bumps in the road, but the most important thing is that you pick yourself up and get back on the wagon! My quality of life has improved so much. I can do everyday activities without getting tired! Also, at least for me, obsessing over calories has never worked. I never know exactly how many I'm consuming, but I have a good estimate in my head. It just made things easier that way!

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Protein powder question

This question may sound silly, but it is bugging me and I’d like to hear some input from people with experience.

I have been told that protein powder will cause weight gain even if you are eating at a significant deficit and exercising considerably: that as long as protein powder is being consumed, weight loss will not be realistic.

I have been told the calories do not matter in the protein powder and that weight gain will happen no matter what.

Can anyone add to why this is or refute this? It doesn’t make sense to me.

Or is this the case for only certain people (ie females, people with thyroid problems, women with PCOS)?

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I’ve hit a weight loss plateau

Hey guys, so I (21F/CW148/GW137) gained about 30lb in college and now i finally lost it, however to reach my goal weight, I still needed to lose more but it’s been very hard.

I go to the gym 5 times a week, 2 days cardio and 3 days lifting, eat approx 1200 calories a day and drink once a week.

Since I started the weight loss journey I allowed myself to have a shitty eating day (usually the day after drinking) and until now it worked for me. But now I have stopped losing weight. What do you guys recommend? I need the one social drinking day that I have, so do you guys have any suggestions beside giving up on drinking once a week?

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Disbelief in weight loss, am I crazy or is it possible??

Hi! I just joined the community because I'm on a weight loss journey and honestly the internet isn't always helpful in answering my questions and I feel like having a supportive community will really help in my weight loss.

I'm a 5'3" female and weighed in at 237 on February 15th. Today, I weighed myself and I was 196. This morning I helped my ex pack up a truck and leave our apartment, the relationship was stressful and we definitely didn't live a healthy lifestyle. I picked up running and I've been eating 1200 calories a day for about 2 weeks and trying to exercise every day as well. Between the 25th of February (223.8lbs, also on period so that definitely added weight) and today (196.8lbs) I've lost almost 30 lbs...is this possible? Is it maybe stress weight that I've lost? I usually sit at 185, im trying to get to 150, is my body trying to normalize back to 185? I don't believe myself that im losing weight, but I know I am because my clothes are fitting much better.

Can someone help explain this?

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