Monday, March 15, 2021

SV/NV: 35 lbs down in 4 months and recognizing what makes me feel bad.

This is the first time I have ever achieved steady weight loss, and the first time I have been below 190 since college. In previous attempts, I hit a plateau around 193 and just gave up. This time I came equipped with new knowledge about micronutrients and maintenance breaks, and now I'm at 187 with no signs of stopping. I had some consecutive days of relapse, but got back on the horse immediately. The best feeling is realizing that by late June (and my birthday) I will be in a normal BMI range, and I'll get to show off this bod at the onset of the summer, preliminary in-person gatherings, and I'll get to feel extra mobile in the months when outdoor activity'ing is at its peak.

I've already written about the tactics I'm using but tl;dr CICO and light, enjoyable exercise. I think I've finally created a neural pathway that is strong enough to remind me that certain foods, and an excess of food, make me feel bad. I used to be able to forget *how* bad it made me feel, but, now, when faced with the decision of throwing back a pint of ice cream– I just don't. Not because of the scale but because I feel so much better (no bloat, no lethargy, no acne, no emotional dip) *not* doing that.

Less obvious items that I've recently discovered that help me fit my nutrient goals at low cals:Seaweed snacks,

canned smoked oysters,

cottage cheese with dill, red onion, and balsamic reduction

stovetop popcorn (ok, not super nutritious but throw some salt and nutritional yeast on those bbs and it's so good and so low impact)

huge ass heaping piles of spinach and arugula with goat cheese melted in

I plan on aiming for -10 lbs per month. Let's gooooooo.

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Losing Weight, Gaining Insecurities, Finding Help

TW: sexual assault, ED. TLDR at the end.

I have lost just under 50 lbs over the last year - diet and lifting weights, so my body has changed and gained muscle in addition to losing fat.

I have been losing weight via cico starting in Jan of last year through October 2020 (lazy keto in the beginning, now focus more on CICO vs. macros). Since September, I’ve been aiming at building muscle while not counting calories, and I maintained while gaining muscle. My main goal was to stop counting calories as much and see how I did - and I succeeded and I was happy with it!

...But after finding out some family history and my mother receiving a pancreatic cancer diagnosis, I wanted to take my calories into consideration again and enter a purposeful deficit for my health. I’m still overweight (BMI 31). I still have weight to lose. I have lost 6ish lbs since January while working out.

I am more proud of my body now than I’ve ever been! I feel good knowing I can go on a 16 mile hike and not be sore the next day because my body is strong. I feel better in the clothes I wear. I feel more confident to wear a sleeveless outfit (where prior to last year, I haven’t been since high school). I enjoy the feeling of being strong and seeing my body change.

We’ve all read it before - losing weight doesn’t fix the mental issues you’ve always had. And I agree! I have a lot of self-esteem issues and losing weight did not make them go away. I do think taking ownership of my body and my health gave me confidence. Knowing I was the owner of what my body could and would be was so empowering to me, versus the old mentality I had of “this is how I am, there’s nothing I can do”.

I love wearing matching sets to the gym or finding an outfit for mundane tasks out in the world because it makes me feel confident and good about myself to be “put together”. When I was younger, I never put effort into how I dressed. As I got older, I wanted to find my style and be more fashionable, and doing so gave me so much confidence. But I didn’t realize how much my extra weight was a shield for me from other people. Ever since I crossed the 40lb lost threshold and starting buying newer clothes that properly fit me, I have started getting a noticeable amount of unwanted attention. I get approached at the gym. I have men purposefully block me while I am walking to force me to talk to them. I was buying wings after a gym session (so I looked sweaty, hair all the wrong way, mask on, smelled, whatever) with headphones in, but that didn’t stop a man easily twice my age from asking me to removing my headphones so he could tell me how much he liked that I “worked for my body.”

I’m not bragging. I hate the attention. I dressed up as a heavier person for me and now I feel like I can’t anymore because I feel unsafe. I was sexually assaulted twice as a kid, and receiving more unwanted looks/comments from men than I am used to just makes me feel unsafe. It makes me want to hide my body behind oversized clothes so I will be overlooked. It makes me want to never go out in public. It makes me want to gain the weight back. It doesn’t happen often (maybe once a month) but it’s enough to make me anxious and self conscious and insecure.

On another side, I notice other women’s bodies more than I ever have before and it’s 100% comparison (which is always the thief of joy). I feel like I can’t be happy with myself because my body “doesn’t look like hers”. Or maybe I shouldn’t order the shake I’ve been saving up (calorically) for all week because the girl serving it has the body I wish I had. This feeds into borderline ED thoughts and I sometimes have to remind myself that I deserve food and that underrating leads me to binge and takes me further away from the goals of HEALTH that I have. I know that sustainable weight loss and health come from small lifestyle changes. Starving myself or denying myself foods that bring me joy (in moderation) is not the way to change my health in the long term. I still have those thoughts and I wished I didn’t. My body is different than the ones around me - that doesn’t make me or anyone else less than, and comparing myself to others is unfair to me and to them.

Constantly paying attention to what I eat and my body has made me more obsessive over it, in a way I wasn’t before my mom’s diagnosis - I am sure my anxiety over her diagnosis is transferring over into my body image. And it’s slipped away from insecurity about my body to insecurity over my relationship, minimizing all of my loving bf’s affections to the way I look, and how I’ll lose him because there are women more (_________) than me. He has genuinely been more supportive of me than anyone (been with him since before I lost weight), none of this is coming from him and I genuinely mean that. He loved my body before and he loves it now - but he loves ME first and who I am. And while I can say that and know it objectively, my insecurity tells me it’s a lie.

I think I’ve seen a post mention something like this before but I wanted to share it again in case there’s anyone that needs to hear it (or hear it again): Losing weight won’t solve your mental health problems. Losing weight has shown me how much I need to work on myself, as it gave me something else to be anxious and insecure about instead of my weight. I’m about to hit a major milestone (50lbs!) and don’t feel celebratory because my mental health is just so not there.

I am looking into a therapist because I need to talk about my mom, I need to work through the emotional baggage there, I need to work on building a better relationship with myself. There is strength in knowing when you need help, and more strength in actually asking for it (can’t tell you how many times I’ve said I need a therapist but haven’t actually seen one).

If you’re struggling with your mental health, whether you’re in the middle of your journey, a lurker, you’ve fallen off track, or you’re thriving in maintenance, I hope you seek out the help we all deserve as humans. 💙

TLDR: lost weight and became insecure about things other than my body. I know I need to see a therapist, and I’m going to - because losing weight won’t magically solve my problems and because I know I am worthy of help.

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NSV: Finally found my flow (27F)

Hi All,

I've been following this sub for literal years, trying to lose weight for most of my life. Always been overweight to obese, yo-yo dieting forever.

Until last year- I went through a bad breakup, from a relationship of almost a decade. I've never been the type to stop eating when stressed, but my devastation from the breakup, as well as losing my job due to COVID around the same time, sent me into a mental breakdown. I ate close to nothing for almost 3 months, and shed 40 pounds. I'm not proud of how I lost the first 40, but I've kept it off since then, but haven't lost more.

Like I mentioned, I've been trying to lose weight my entire life without success, and this is the most weight I've ever lost. It's been about 6 months since the initial loss, I rebuilt my entire life (new job, new home, getting used to being single etc), and I'm trying to get back on track to double that weight loss, in a healthier way. For those who have had childhood trauma like me, abandonment issues, etc, we know that a lot of weight loss and diet is mental and food/binging can be a crutch.

Before, I was forcing myself to eat small meals multiple times a day, when I've always been an IF girl. I always loved meal substitutes due to my hectic job, but thought I had to be nutritionally perfect in order to be worthy of losing weight. I don't crave big breakfasts, but I always thought it was "bad". Last month, something clicked. I can skip breakfast if I want to, and if I want to drink soylent as my lunch, I can.

For the first couple of weeks, I didn't count calories, I ate intuitively. I wanted to see how my body functions when I'm not putting pressure on it to behave a certain way. Here's how it went:

- I wake up, not hungry. Drink a ton of water, and then my body starts craving coffee. From there, I eat a slice of toast, avo, and an egg.

- Lunchtime rolls around, I'm slightly famished, but not enough to want a meal, so I drink a soylent

- End of day, 5pm comes around. I'm hungry, in a comfortable way. I chopped up enough veggies for a few days, pulled my chicken out of the freezer, and put together a simple and delicious large meal. Didn't worry about the calories in olive oil, didn't fret about how much starch I was eating, or the exact ounce number of the chicken. I just enjoyed my meal, drank water, ate until I was full, and finished off with a walk before getting ready for bed. I was feeling regular, had steadt levels of energy, and felt like I was getting more nutrients than I'd had in years.

Did this for a couple of weeks, noticed weight coming off of me, so I decided to log my calories for a typical day in my life. 1,500 calories, right where I want to be to lose 2 pounds a week. I was elated. Been doing it since then, though sometimes I'll have breakfast, or soylent for breakfast, and a sandwich for lunch and a smaller dinner.

The main thing I'm gleaming about is the fact that I've had a realization: it doesn't matter how you get your calories/achieve your weight loss, as long as it's easy, rewarding, and enjoyable for you. I know, weight loss isn't always easy, but it can be if you find what works for you. Counseling has also helped me overcome my issue of food being a mental crutch. I've spent years grappling with the vicious cycle of starving myself, to binge thousands of calories in shame. I've finally gotten to where I'm happy.

Losing weight steadily and most importantly, loving my new lifestyle.

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Keep yourself in mind

So, I'm currently on my second weight loss journey. The first time around I did Weight watchers and ended up losing 130 pounds. I ended up in a couple of bad relationships and found that the comfort I always turned to was food. I gained about 70 pounds of the weight back.

Today marks the day that I'm back in the overweight category. I've had a couple slip ups here and there. Not measuring things with a scale was a problem. This though, I didn't think that I was going to just sit down and hate everything about myself by overeating for a day. Instead, I just went okay. I'm going to stay on track tomorrow. Then I did. I didn't try to burn off all the extra calories I ate. I didn't try to fast hardcore to make sure I burned all of them off. I just accepted my flawed self and kept going.

That had been one of the biggest problems I had with my first journey. I lost 130 pounds out of sheer unadulterated hatred of myself. It wasn't healthy and it wasn't good for me at all. It didn't fix my self esteem issues and it sure as heck didn't fix my life.

This time I'm doing it out of self love. I'm trying my best to accept myself for who I am and find what makes me uniquely me. It's highly emotional and horrifically cliche, but it's true. As all of you keep going for your own reasons make sure that you end up getting the help you need for what got you there in the first place. Sometimes it's a simple fix and other times it requires therapy. But take it from me, find the root of your problem and do your best to find out to soothe it.

Thank y'all for being such a wonderful community. I take a lot of solace in the posts on here.

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In Defense of FDA-Approved Weight Loss Medications

This is a followup to my summaries of weight loss and drug studies at [study] A Tour Through Google Scholar's Studies On Weight Loss Methods : loseit (reddit.com).

Reddit (including r/loseit) is, as a rule, very much against using FDA-approved drugs for weight loss, viewing them as a dangerous and irresponsible cheat. This view seems very common in society as a whole.

But I think this view should be reconsidered! This is an effortpost meant to persuade others why FDA-approved weight loss drugs, when taken as prescribed by a doctor, actually have a reasonable place in the arsenal of healthy and sustainable weight loss.

The arguments against using such drugs are mostly in four categories, which I’ll tackle in order:

1a ) “You don’t know what the long-term effects of [anti-obesity medication] will be. You could be cutting literal years off your life.”

This is the fully-general counterargument against using drugs for the treatment of chronic conditions. And it’s also a very strong objection to the use of weight loss medications, which is why I address it first.

The argument goes: We can only know what we’ve learned about these drugs from randomized controlled studies, which tend to only run about a year. What if there are very long-term adverse effects that only happen after two years? We wouldn’t know about them!

(Well, that’s not quite right. The FDA does require longer-term post-approval studies, which is how they knew to pull Belviq after it’d been on the market for a few years-- the longer you're able to run studies the more you’re able to detect extremely subtle or long-term impacts on health.)

But anyway, there always is some baseline level of risk. Ultimately, the unknown risks of taking a given drug long-term must be weighed against the known risks of obesity, which are large and known. If you can lose the weight through planning and willpower, this is best; but if you can’t, drugs are second-best. Don’t take my word for it:

> The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recommends pharmacotherapy for weight loss when lifestyle interventions (diet, exercise and behavioural therapy) have failed and the body mass index (BMI) is °30kg/m2 with no concomitant obesity-related risk factors, or if the BMI is °27 kg/m2 and the patient has at least one obesity-related risk factor.

1b) “Okay, but obesity drugs are disproportionately risky; have you considered the disasters of phen-fen and DNP?”

These were indeed public health disasters! They are why the FDA nowadays is extremely conservative with approving anti-obesity medications, requiring lengthy trials before they are taken by the general public and revoking approval at the first sign of serious side effect risk. Which is why there are currently a low-single-digit number of FDA-approved anti-obesity medications: these are precisely the ones for which scientists have not found serious long-term side-effects even after extensive study.

2 ) “Drugs might help you lose weight initially. However, you’ll have to go off the drugs eventually, and then you’ll just regain the weight.”

This is true for some drugs, but not all. Qsymia and phentermine are considered to be for short-term use; Contrave, Orlistat and Saxenda are for short or long-term use. Semaglutide (Ozempic) similarly is for long-term use in type-2 diabetes patients, though its usage as an anti-obesity drug otherwise is off-label.

3 ) “Drugs can only treat the symptoms of obesity; the true root cause is a unhealthy psychological relationship with food, which drugs cannot treat.”

I include this argument for completeness, since it is one I’ve seen advanced on Reddit.

The prevalence of obesity in the US is 40%. To the extent that the root cause of overweight and obesity is an unhealthy relationship with food, this is the default state of humans in the United States, and it appears to be extremely difficult to change (in the sense that decades of public health measures haven’t made a dent in the problem). Workarounds are likely to be useful, and this is one of them.

4) “Anti-obesity drugs just exist so that people don’t have to do the work of dieting. They should simply use CICO/Keto/WFPB/other diets to lose the weight naturally, which is cheap, healthy and achievable for all.”

Ultimately, you don’t gain or lose virtue points by losing weight naturally vs. with drugs. It’s your life; if you find that CICO dieting without drugs makes you miserable, you are under no obligation to suck it up and deal with it just because it’s theoretically possible for you to do so. Drugs exist for our well-being, and we shouldn’t be shy about reaching for them for this purpose any more than somebody with depression should “just power through it” without pharmacological aid, or someone with OCD should just “get a grip”.

In conclusion, I of course agree with most on here that people looking to lose weight should first try out dieting; but if that’s ineffective or unsustainably miserable, checking out the current list of FDA-approved weight loss drugs should be something you discuss with your doctor.

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Weekly Update -1 [29M/6'0/240 to 180]

Hello everyone,

I want to give a weekly update to share my wins/losses, track my progress and feel accountable.

First things first, I've lost 4.5lbs this week!

In my original post, I've written that I've started a journey from 240lbs to 180lbs; however I've looked at the scale and found that I am actually 245 lbs. So, every update is from that figure.

Weight Loss Graph

What am I doing?:

- I am adhering to a strict 1500 calorie diet with macros of 40% Protein / 30% Carbs / 30% Fats. I've followed my nutrition plan with 0.9% more calories than I've planned for, which is a huge succcess for me. (1514 daily average vs 1500 planned)

- I am walking 40 minutes at 3.5mph speed for 6 days of week and I've walked +2.1% than I've planned. (245 minutes vs 240 minutes planned).

How was my first week and challenges I've faced:

It felt unexpectedly easy for me to limit my intake at 1500 cal as I've also increased my fibers and improved my carb quality by migrating to beans/greens. I am walking nearly every day and I was sure that I was going to give up after 2 days but after feeling the "runner's high" and rush of endorphins, I am happily waiting the next day to walk more. Overall, I am feeling more energetic and both physically and mentally better. Even my productivity at work has increased!

I've had only one strong craving which was last night and it was for some dessert. However, I've faced that challenge head on and managed to fit an ice cream there. Was it necessary? Physically? No. Mentally? Hell yeah!

Plans for next week:

I am planning to incorporate 3-days a week strength training to my workout routine, so that all the protein I am eating doesn't go to waste and my future excess skin can find a place to go. However, I will also increase my calorie limit to 1600 on those days.

Hope I can continue on my way without stray and hope this post inspires another fatty to lose weight and reclaim the control of their life!

Thanks guys for everything!

My starting point: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/comments/m12n8p/started_my_journey_at_29_240_to_180/

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Stuck in a plateau

Hell all! I hope you’re all having a great day!

I (20F) (5”1) am reaching out here because I seem to be just stuck. I began my weight loss journey February of 2020, at 189/190 lbs. By august, I had dropped to 163 lbs, my halfway goal.

I pledged to switch from cardio to strength training for 2021- and while I’m not perfect with my attendance I do stay on top of going to the gym and maintaining a calorie deficit.

I know the scale isn’t accurate with weightlifting, because fat and muscle weigh and look different. I may of noticed a bit of change in sizing, but I still just feel all around the same. I range between 163-167 lbs (I need to weigh in the mornings but my scale is broken so I normally do in the afternoons).

Any advice how to get out of this, or see some results? Maybe I’m just disillusioned here; but I feel like I’m just not seeing any results. I’ve definitely gone up in my abilities to lift and such, but I just feel kind of stuck right now. Anyone else go through this?

Thanks in advance!

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