Monday, June 26, 2023

Please help me understand TDEE numbers

Hi,

Why does a TDEE give me different calories for weight loss depending on my different weight?

Just to preface: I understand that eating more = gaining weight. That's not what I don't understand. What I don't understand is why the number for weight loss is different for two different body weights?

So here's my stats:

27 F 172 cm 139 kg

Into a TDEE calculator it says: Mild weight loss: 2,253 Weight loss: 2,103 Extreme weight loss: 1,603

Now, when I keep it all the same but I change my weight from 139kg to 116kg I get:

Mild weight loss: 2,077 Weight loss: 1,827 Extreme weight loss: 1,327

Now, I currently eat at 1,827 calories a day (I'm still at 139kg body weight). When I eat at 2,103 then it maintains my weight but I don't lose weight even though according to the TDEE calculator's and app's that's how much I should be eating to lose weight at my current, heavier body weight.

Please note I chose "sedentary: little or no exercise" for both options.

Apologies if my question seems obvious or stupid. I've been eating at 2,103 calories for the last 5 months and I've only maintained, not lost anything scale-wise. I have gained muscle and lost some centimetres (23 -is) but the scale number hasn't dropped.

However before COVID I was loosing weight and I was 116kg back then. When I ate at around 1800 the weight made a decent move of about 1 - 2kg a month and I got down to 105kg.

Thanks for any help in advance 😸

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Is it normal for weight loss to start slowing down after a few months?

Hello everybody, I have been trying to lose weight for around 7 months now. While my progress was somewhat slow in the first month, it drastically sped up after the second one. For context, here are my averages per month.

December: 81.6 kg.
January: 81kg (0.6 kg change).
February: 80.4 kg (0.6kg change).
March: 79 kg (1.4 kg change).
April: 76.6 kg (2.4 kg change).
May: 75.1 kg (1.5 kg change).
June: 74.2 kg (0.9 kg change).

As you can see, my weight loss was the greatest around April, but it then slowed down. My main concern is that I will be back to losing almost no weight at all. I’m not sure if this is supposed to be ‘expected’ or if I should change my habits.

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Sunday, June 25, 2023

Stuck despite working out and following CICO: desperately seeking advice.

Hey everyone!

I just wanted to see if anybody had any words of wisdom for someone who’s at their wits end. I’m 27(F), and I’ve been on the cycle of losing and gaining weight for the majority of my life. My highest was 238lbs at 5’4”, and I lost around ~60lbs and gained it back over the years unfortunately.

I started my journey again around 3 months ago when I weighed myself to see I was at the 214lbs ish mark, after a terrible start to the year had me in a funk for months. But I’m having major problems now.

To give some context, I’m following CICO, and I’m doing strength training (45mins) alongside ending with cardio (around 15 to 20 mins) at the gym around 3 times a week minimum. This is on top of walking my dog for half an hour a day, averaging around 7000 steps. I’ve also massively upped my water intake.

I’m down to 198lbs, but the struggle has been insane.

I’m plateauing regularly, unrelated to my cycle (I’ve seen people mention here before! I’ve scoured this sub for advice), and originally I set my calorie intake to 1500, eating more protein. I was stuck at the same weight for almost three weeks before I dropped a pound, and my mental was and still is truly beginning to fail.

I dropped my calories to 1300, still managing to eat protein and it seemed to budge, but then halt again. The only thing I can think of is dropping again, but it seems impossible!

At 1300 I’m exhausted. Going to the gym has become harder since I dropped to it, I’m tired, my skin is breaking out and drying, and I don’t think it’s healthy. But when I went back up to 1500 this week, I gained? I weigh my foods, track every single thing on my fitness pal, and I’m at a loss.

And I’m fairly sure I’m not breaking the laws of thermodynamics or weight loss here. Can anyone spot any faults in what I’m doing because I’m baffled? I’m almost on the verge of seeing my GP for it.

Thanks!

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1 Year Body Transformation - 76lbs Lost - Protocol and Reflections

One year ago, I had completely lost my health. Overweight, burned out, and unhealthy, I set out fully resolved on a journey to completely reset my body and health. I was in a unique position to devote substantial time and resources to this endeavor, and I am writing this post to share my journey and what worked for me in the hopes that it may be useful to others.

Starting stats:

• Height: 6’4”

• Weight: 282lbs

• Bodyfat: 27-28%

• Blood Pressure: 159/92

Current stats:

• Weight: 206lbs

• Bodyfat: 13.5%

• Blood Pressure: 124/70

Background:

I (34M) founded a company seven years ago and ran it as CEO until May of 2022, when I officially retired from my day-to-day role. While this was an incredible and privileged journey, the mental, emotional, and physical costs were very high, and I was deeply burned out on every level. Most critically, I had lost my physical and mental health, and had become obese (282lbs), hypertensive, insulin resistant, and depressed.

For the next six months, I decided to make my health and fitness my full-time job, going deep down many research rabbit holes and committing consistently to a rigorous (though not unreasonable or extreme) exercise program. Once I dialed in my regimen, it took much less effort to stay the course, and I returned to work to begin the process of founding my next company. Here is what I did, and what I believe moved the needle most.

Diet

This journey taught me very clearly that weight loss happens in the kitchen, not the gym.

My spouse and I used a simple app called Lose It! to manage our diet. It allowed us to set a weight loss goal (initially 2lbs/wk), and does the math to set a daily calorie budget that meets the caloric deficit necessary to achieve that. It also syncs with our Apple Watches to feed our exercise calories back into the app and reflect in our weekly calorie budget.

We had previously tried everything – keto, paleo, mostly plant-based vegetarian, and other programs, and none of them drove the profound results we saw from simply tracking our calories and macros.

Because I wanted to both cut fat and build muscle, I optimized my diet for high protein intake (approx. 1g per lb of bodyweight) while still maintaining my necessary caloric deficit. Conventional wisdom says not to try to cut and bulk at the same time, but this diet and training approach absolutely worked for me.

It took some practice to build the reflex of logging everything we ate, but the awareness this built was invaluable, and soon became second nature.

Beyond tracking calories and protein, and eating generally clean foods, I didn’t do anything special or gimmicky. The success of this simple approach made feel a bit silly for buying into so many fad diets over the years, but I’m glad I went back to basics and found something that works.

I also reduced alcohol consumption to a maximum of four drinks per week, which was a hugely positive change that not only made it easier to lose weight, but improved my sleep and mental health in the process. My body no longer enjoys being drunk, and I now drink only lightly and occasionally at social functions.

Exercise

I worked with a personal trainer who specializes in functional mobility. Rather than take a top-down approach focused solely on weight loss and aesthetics, he worked with me to take a bottom-up approach that emphasized healthy body mechanics, restorative spinal mobilization, and a balance of hypertrophy, calisthenics, and endurance training. I saw my trainer three times per week, and did three (lighter) solo workouts on the days in between, taking one day off per week.

This slow and steady approach to building a strong foundation took some time to yield the aesthetic results I wanted, but I felt the positive change in my body and health almost immediately. My workouts were challenging but nothing crazy – crafted to push me just slightly out of my comfort zone each time. I found that this bar rose steadily and quickly with each passing week.

I have maintained this activity level, with 5-6 hours of mixed exercise per week, with an emphasis on resistance training.

We are fortunate to have a nice home gym, but almost everything I did can be done inexpensively at home with bodyweight exercises, a basic set of dumbbells, and a weight bench. I don’t think I will ever “go to the gym” again, as I’ve found the facilities just aren’t necessary. Even when traveling, I stick mostly to bodyweight exercises that I can do easily in my hotel room.

In lieu of a trainer, there are several fitness apps that will customize a routine for you using whatever equipment you have available, including bodyweight-only if you don’t have access to equipment.

Medical

My medical protocol played a huge role in my success, and was the largest focus of my research and investment. Here is what I did:

Hormone optimization: I’ve spent most of my life with testosterone levels in 300-400ng/dl range – technically within the “normal” reference range, but suboptimal. I’ve also struggled with persistently elevated estradiol (estrogen), which I suspect is the result of being a morbidly obese child who went through puberty with a lot of excess bodyfat that biased me toward high aromatization.

I worked with a functional medicine clinic to get my testosterone to an optimal level of about 1100, while getting my estradiol in the 40-50 range, and slightly boosting my suboptimal thyroid levels.

  • After some trial and error, here’s where I landed with my hormone protocol:
    • Testosterone Cypionate: 30mg daily via subcutaneous injection
    • HCG: 500iu EOD (to maintain fertility and testicle size)
    • Anastrazole (aromatase inhibitor): .25mg EOD, later replaced with an equivalent dose of Exemestane, and eventually phased out entirely as I lost bodyfat and my aromatization profile shifted toward clinically normal.
    • T3/T4 Thyroid compound: I started with a low dose of natural Armour thyroid (porcine derived), but had to stop because it was triggering an antibody response. I landed on a compound of synthetic T3/T4 at 18mcg/76mcg.

Fixing my hormones was the biggest health unlock of my life. For the first time ever, instead of fighting my body and metabolism, we finally felt in sync. With consistency, my bodyfat began to melt off while my lean mass increased, and my weight loss (when averaged) tracked almost precisely to what the caloric deficit math said it should.

This protocol also significantly boosted my energy levels and mood, making caffeine or other stimulants less necessary in my routine. My confidence skyrocketed. And while I feared at the beginning that testosterone would make me act like a jerk, the effect was quite the opposite: I’m more positive, outgoing, and kind, albeit slightly less patient and with a decidedly lower tolerance for bullshit. I really like what it did for my mindset and mental health, and love what it did for my body.

In parallel, I also stacked a robust peptide regimen that I think has been transformative for my overall health, metabolism, sleep, and post-workout recovery.

Semaglutide: 1mg/wk via subcutaneous injection. This peptide has been, for me, a miracle drug that completely shut off the background mind chatter that had always encouraged me to snack or binge eat, while allowing me to still eat sufficient calories and protein, and still fully enjoy food when I want to. The shift was that eating became a conscious choice – something I wanted and chose to do – rather than a compulsive behavior that needed to be satisfied. My glucose and A1C also improved from prediabetic to textbook perfect levels.

  • Important notes on Semaglutide: It’s critically important that you eat sufficient protein when on this drug. If you’re not, you will likely lose muscle along with fat, which will leave you in even worse metabolic shape. If you overdo your dose and aren’t paying attention to your diet, it’s very easy to effectively starve yourself on this drug and not realize it. But by tracking my protein (combined with resistance training), my lean muscle mass has steadily risen since starting this drug – as measured and tracked and by DXA scan.
  • I think the pharmaceutical dosing protocols (2.4mg/wk) for this drug are insanely high. My spouse and I titrated up from .25mg/wk (which didn’t do much) to 1mg/wk, where we’ve stayed for the last six months. I’m a 6’4”, 205lb man and this dose is strong for me. Any stronger and I’d struggle to eat enough. My advice is to start with a very small dose and work your way up to the minimum effective dose that works for you.
  • This is still a new drug without the benefit of longterm safety data. While I feel dramatically healthier on it (as confirmed by all reasonable bloodwork and biometric tracking), I think caution and careful monitoring is warranted, and encourage others to be patient in finding the smallest possible dose that works for you.
  • The only side effect I experienced from this drug was mild constipation. I was able to fully counteract this with a nightly dose of an ayurvedic herb called Triphala, which works by stimulating peristalsis (involuntary muscle movement) of the digestive tract.
  • Growth Hormone Secratagogues - Ipamorelin / CJC-1295 – These peptides stimulate growth hormone release from the pituitary gland, enhancing fat loss and muscle growth while improving sleep and recovery. While not as powerful as actual growth hormone, they are much safer and can be taken safely for longer periods. I LOVE these beautiful molecules, and consider them an essential part of my stack.
  • I played with many other peptides and still use several of them, including BPC-157, TB-500, AOD-9064, Tesamorelin, Epithalon, MT-2, PT-141, Selank, Semax, and others. While interesting and useful, I don’t think they played a pivotal role in my body transformation and am omitting detailed commentary. If anyone is interested in a follow up post on these, let me know in the comments or a DM and I’ll considering doing a detailed writeup.
  • Cardarine - 10mg/day - Not a peptide, but this one was immensely helpful. It's a PPAR receptor agonist that biases the body toward burning fat for fuel. It also dramatically enhanced my cardiovascular capacity, allowing me to hit it harder in the gym. Within 30 minutes of taking this, it feels like I have a third lung in the gym. I believe this drug was very powerful in accelerating my weight loss, but was probably not essential in the long term.
    • It is also the riskiest measure in this list due to potential cancer risk. The pharmaceutical company that developed it abandoned it because it caused cancer in test rats. But importantly, they were given large doses well in excess of equivalence to my 10mg dose for more than half of their lives. The safety of this drug is still hotly debated (which you can find ad nauseum on Reddit or Google). I personally think the risk of short term use at reasonable human doses is small, and was ultimately comfortable with the cost/benefit profile or running a few cycles of this drug. But that's my opinion and not medical advice, so please proceed with caution and do your own research to reach an informed conclusion before jumping into it.
  • I did not use any steriods or anabolic compounds beyond testosterone. I have considered doing a doctor-supervised Anavar cycle, but decided it just wasn't necessary given the results I was already seeing without it.

Other Measures

  • Hyperbaric oxygen therapy – 10 (90 minute) dives at 2.2ATA – I don’t think this did much for my body composition, but felt like a reboot for my brain function and mental health, and very notably completely restored my sense of smell, which had been severely diminished nearly two years later after an alpha-strain COVID infection.
  • Stem Cell Therapy – My spouse and I did an expensive course of full body stem cell therapy in Mexico, using placenta derived mesenchymal stem cells. I don’t think this helped much with body composition, but it did completely restore my receding hairline and bald spot, and did wonders for my skin.
  • Cold Plunge - We purchased a cold plunge pool and love it. While I suspect it's providing a slight metabolic boost and improving workout recovery, I don't think it has particularly aided with my weight loss. I LOVE what it does for my energy levels and mood.
  • Sauna -- We have a basic infrared sauna from Costco and I love it. Really helps with post-workout recovery, and I think has also improved my circulation and blood pressure.
  • Tummy tuck – I did this in 2017 to remove excess skin resulting from extreme weight loss in childhood. In fifth grade, I tipped the scales at nearly 300lbs, but lost the weight in high school. After years of maintaining that, I finally got a tummy tuck. While it’s a serious procedure with a difficult recovery, it was life changing. Unfortunately, due to years of chronic stress and anxiety after starting my company, I gained most of that weight back. But fortunately, after this round of weight loss, my skin elasticity has bounced back nicely. It did leave a permanent scar, but that’s vastly preferable to the alternative.

Spousal Alignment

My husband went on this journey with me and had my back every step of the way. His results have been similarly dramatic and transformative.

I’m very fortunate to have a spouse that went on this journey with me, followed a similar diet plan, and was a constant accountability partner (as I was to him) to keep us on track. I think it would have been much harder – and maybe impossible – to do this if my spouse and I weren’t on the same page or wasn’t at minimum, highly supportive.

Conclusion

I’m healthier, happier, and more confident today than at any time in my life. Growing up with childhood obesity leaves deep psychological scars that fundamentally inform self-image. It’s a complete paradigm shift and total head-trip to be at a place – for the first time in my life – where I not only love my body, but feel confident and comfortable within it.

This feels like the end of one fitness journey and the beginning of another. I love my body today and will be perfectly happy if this is it for me, aesthetically or functionally. But now I'm hooked on fitness, and am embarking on a new journey of exploration to learn what is possible with my body, and how far I can go. But this journey feels fundamentally different those past because I'm doing it from a foundation of health, confidence, and self love with my current body (which feels very sustainable to me now that I've cracked my metabolic code). If further progress becomes unsustainable or the cost/risks are too high, I can always come back to where I am how, healthy and confident in my own skin.

I have many other thoughts I wanted to share, and went down a lot of rabbit holes and dead ends before finding the mix that worked for me. While I omitted these thoughts for length, I'm happy to answer questions or expound on request as my schedule allows.

I’m not a medical professional and this post is not medical advice. I’m sharing what worked for me in the hopes that it may be useful for others, but your path and toolset may vary.

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Weight gain was a blessing. Now I can lose it with confidence.

I know this sub usually talks about the advantages and disadvantages that come with weight loss, but I wanted to talk about my experience which has been slightly different.

During my twenties I oscillated between 58-60 kgs at 5'8" and I was fit and toned. People always commented on my body because I enjoyed eating and drinking like a normal person. (No ED and I never binged either but I did eat/ drink whatever I wanted to eat/drink).

Then life happened and things happened. I stopped moving as much as I used to and made takeout my staple. I gained 15 kgs and I hated what I saw in the mirror.

From a Spanish XS I moved onto an L-M. I put my dating life on hold because if I don't love myself I can't expect it from another person.

The cycle carried on for 2-3 years. I didn't like what I saw, but I wasn't ready to do anything about it either.

Then something changed this year. I suddenly accepted myself. I went to the spa and stripped naked in the locker room without feeling shy, I didn't feel any shame when I went to get a massage and was assigned a male masseur. I just didn't care. I was okay with how I looked.

This is something I was never okay with. I know the world saw me as smoking hot (r/mildbrag) but I was just always shy in regards to my body. I never felt comfortable at the beach or at the pool where I felt exposed and felt like all my self made up flaws were on display.

It's simply put liberating. I have lost 9 kgs so far and have 6 kgs to go to get back to my 20's weight but this time I'm actually loving my body. I'm looking forward to wearing the clothes I loved to wear vs the clothes I was wearing to hide my bulges.

I know it sounds insane. I absolutely am NOT saying that I enjoyed my weight gain but I have found a silver lining. Also, I know compared to others my stats and weight gain may seem inconsequential but regardless we all have our own journey and our own stories.

I hope this post helps someone find a silver lining, especially when they need a boost to carry on.

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Extreme diet fatigue - how to make it feel good again?

23F 5’4 SW: 210lbs+ LW: 115lbs CW: 150lbs

A couple years ago I started my weight loss journey around 210lbs, reached my goal, and sat comfortably between 115-125lbs for a good year.

Since December, I’ve hit a funk and gained 30lbs. I am experiencing extreme fatigue. I used to be in the gym over an hour a day, meal prepping religiously every Sunday, fit and healthy and happy. Now, I feel like an animal, only eating and sleeping.

The gym makes me miserable. I don’t enjoy it anymore and I don’t know how to force myself to. I tried to prevent this by easing down on exercise until I just wasn’t working out at all anymore, and I can’t seem to get back into it.

Food is a huge problem. I’ve become fixated on a handful of foods (frozen pizza/burritos, Chinese takeout, and literally just egg wraps) and I’m finding it extremely hard to deviate from these. I somehow don’t feel “satisfied” unless I have one of these specific foods. If I’m presented with other foods, I usually just wait until I can have what I want. If these foods are unavailable, I will go out of my way to acquire them.

I’ve tried several times to “kick off” my previous weight-loss routine, but it becomes so overwhelming I just give up within a week. I’ve come to absolutely hate everything involved with it - meal prepping, grocery shopping, exercising, it all makes me exhausted to even think about.

It used to feel so good, and it used to make me happy. How do I find the energy again? A few months ago I got a full blood work scan done to make sure nothing was wrong with me and it came back perfect. So I’m assuming it’s something mental. What can I do? I feel so pathetic.

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Need help with plateau and rising weight

I really need help with the mental aspect of losing weight and making healthier choices. I am 6' 2" 19 year old male, I currently am in the 260s and using the navy method I have a body fat of about 30%. I started my weight loss journey new years 2021 at 315 lbs, 10 months later I was in 250s, then I plaited for a year and a half, I then went to university where I end freshman year at 240, since being back home mid May I have ballooned up to 20 lbs.

I feel and look disgusting in the mirror, my clothes aren't lose anymore and I am surrounded by so much fat I hate that I undid all my progress. I know how to lose weight, increase calorie output through exercising and to decrease calorie input through a caloric deficit or about 500 or 1000 calories daily and the math says I should lose 2 lb per week. I did strict calorie counting to be around 1,500 calories per day in college and the two pounds per week never worked for me. But being back home I just couldn't make healthier choices, I can't stop eating and allowing myself to eat whenever I want and how much I want. I just need help getting back into the mental state of being motivated and driven to improve my health.

I think a big reason why I was able to make so much progress in the first year was due to the fact that I knew I might wait I was closer to dying of heart disease at a young age and that scared me and put a fire under my butt to lose weight but I got comfortable at 250 lb as I stayed on that weight for a year and a half, and being back home I just can't shut my mouth. What can I do to improve my motivation drive to actually follow through and do healthy choices? I messed up my foot 2 weeks ago and I can't run or walk on it too much or I'll just be an extreme pain and I want to play soccer and basketball with my friends but I can't so I just stay indoors eat and do online classes.

I know I need to fix the issue at hand so I could be in the routine by the time that I go back to University in early August so I could continue to improve but right now I'm just fattening myself and I can't stop I don't know what to do.

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