Tuesday, March 5, 2024

Working out and protein

Hi all! I just had a few questions regarding protein and exercise. I am about to start a workout regimen. I said I would start at 169 since that would be a completely new ballpark weight for me. And as you can tell by my flair, I am VERY close. My main question is it even possible to build muscle or tone up without getting a ton of protein?? Like is the strength training just straight up useless without the protein to back it up? I hit 70 grams of protein a day give or take. I’m just at a loss because protein powder is expensive for my family’s situation at the moment. And my mom doesn’t want to buy more than a pack of chicken because she doesn’t like eating it all the time. Even though I could eat it everyday tbh. I just want to know if I should wait to start strength training until I’m financially stable enough to get the required protein sources to help me actually build muscle. I’m very new to anything exercise but have a lot of experience with diet and weight loss so this feels very stupid to type. But anything helps, thanks!

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Sad to say - since January 1 I haven't really made a serious attempt at weight loss yet...

...so reset the clock and weighed in yesterday morning. I'm at 282 lbs and I'm guessing my ideal weight will be somewhere in the 180s. My two biggest weaknesses are snacking after dinner and not being consistent with daily exercise and activity. Snacking after dinner is the much bigger culprit of the two IMHO - though increasing my activity levels and regular exercise are still habits that I want to make permanent.

Sadly, I know what needs to be done. I know there are no major revelations that I need to achieve any of these goals. Just have to commit. One good thing so far is we eliminated fast food visits completely. We'll see how it goes.

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Monday, March 4, 2024

How did I lose so much weight yet so few sizes?

I guess I'm mostly just venting here since I imagine it's not really a question that can be answered, but I am feeling so frustrated and deflated about my weight loss. I lost nearly 80 lbs, from 199 to 121 lbs, and yet somehow lost so few sizes. My measurements barely even budged, all I did was entirely lose (and arguably ruin...) my boobs and everything else stayed basically the same. Went from 42-32-45 to 37-29-42. That's it! I'm 5'2, an 80lb weight loss should be so obvious on me but it just isn't. I look basically indistinguishable. And yes, my weight has been recorded very meticulously over this process, empty stomach nude weigh-ins every morning with the same scale, so I know I'm not just overestimating my weight loss.

I went from a size 12 to a size 10, a size XL to a size M. My bmi and body fat % are all in the normal category but I don't LOOK that way at all. It's like this journey will just never end, like I'll never get to eat at a maintenance level ever again. I'm sure when people see me irl they would estimate my weight so much higher than it actually is. I feel zero sense of accomplishment in this weight loss, only disappointment and frustration and if I'm entirely honest with you, some sense of misery as well.

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My health nut parents do nothing but derail my weight loss

Vent incoming. TLDR: Parents are restrictive with food, it fuels my Binge Eating Disorder.

I had to move back in with my parents a couple years ago when I decided to go back to school, and it’s been a roller coaster of issues that I just keep bottled up. Now that I’m graduating from college in a couple months and will hopefully be moving out this year, I’m finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. But it’s upsetting that I probably won’t be making any progress before graduation and applying for jobs, that I’ll still be as fat as I am right now.

I have diagnosed Binge Eating Disorder, which throughout my life has been very driven by my dad’s over-restriction of my food. From as early as I remember, he would watch me eat, scowling, deciding when I’d had enough and cutting me off mid-bite. Anything with calories was unhealthy. Bananas, eggs, nuts, you name it. If we were at a restaurant and whatever I ordered happened to be an enormous serving size, he took his anger out on me, as if I had told the restaurant to serve enormous dishes. As early as five years old I had binge habits, always stuffing myself as much as I could whenever my dad was out of the house, or if I was over at a friend’s place. As soon as I was old enough to be out of the house alone, I spent pocket money on junk food from the convenience store. Hid it in my room. It always got worse with every new level of freedom I got: my weekly allowance, then my driver’s license, then living on campus, then getting my own jobs and my own money.

While doing Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in the past year I have learned that it’s not healthy to blame my binge issues solely on my dad. First of all, because I am basically giving up my agency and control over my own behaviors and life in doing so. Secondly, because it’s not entirely logical. Plenty of people with restrictive parents develop a restrictive eating disorder, not BED. And some people turn out fine. And 100 pounds of my weight gain was due to being on an SSRI when I was living on my own, so I can’t exactly blame that on my dad. Plus I have other tactile-sensory-seeking behaviors, like hair-pulling, constant fidgeting, etc, which my BED could be another manifestation of. It’s not purely explainable by my upbringing.

Ironically my dad has mellowed out over the years and barely pays attention to my eating now. But now my mom is the one obsessed with “eating healthy”. The worst part is she yo-yos between different fads. She used to be on the keto train, but it was all talk. She still ate fruits. She still ordered dessert at restaurants. There is no way her body ever entered actual ketosis, but I still had to deal with general carb restriction. Before that, she was convinced gluten was the cause of all ailments. Now she is on the “fat is bad for you” train, because it’s calorie dense. Any time I try to explain that as long as you count your calories, you can eat even calorie dense foods, my parents just scoff at it. My mom has started preaching to me to cut out dairy because it’s not only calorie dense but also has growth hormone that supposedly causes weight gain. But she still thinks carbs are bad. So in her eyes our diet should be nothing but fiber, water, and lean protein. While my dad isn’t prone to fads like my mom is, he is still very restrictive with the foods he eats, and the general types of food kept in the house are very restricted.

Ever since moving back in, I’ve gone back to hiding junk food in my room. When I’m out of the house, I eat fast food because I know that when I’m home I won’t be able to eat in peace with no judgement. When they go out of town, I go on a food spree, stocking the kitchen with the things I’m otherwise not allowed to eat, and eating ungodly amounts to the point where my stomach hurts. And regaining weight in the process.

When my parents are home, I can’t just use my own money for separate groceries and keep them in the kitchen, it would result in major blowback. Example: one time I made myself a bowl of rolled oats while my parents were still home, out in the open in the kitchen. Big mistake. My mom acted as if I was eating fried ice cream or something horrendous, begged me not to eat it, acting genuinely upset like I was killing myself. Because, carbs. Another example: yesterday she made me a smoothie, and I kept asking her to add yogurt to it because all the best smoothies I’ve had had yogurt. She refused, citing the fat and growth hormone excuse. She also refused to add strawberries to it, because again, carbs. I had to cut the berries myself and put them in the blender. I also had to add the yogurt myself after she had made me the smoothie. It doesn’t matter that I’m closer to 30 years old than 20, I am still not treated as having sound judgement when it comes to my own health.

My parents know I’m diagnosed with BED. But I’ve never had an honest conversation with them about how their behaviors make my eating and weight gain worse. I think in their minds I just eat too much and don’t have a good idea of proper serving sizes. They don’t know the half of it. And they have always insisted that they are never at fault for any of my issues. When we were having a conversation once about their overall abusive behaviors toward me, and them claiming I can’t blame all my problems on other people, I had to explain to them, “You are my parents. You are the single biggest influence on my life. How can you possibly think the way you treat me has not had an effect on the way I’ve turned out?” They were speechless for a moment, then my dad hesitantly said, “OK, I realize we sometimes make mistakes…” That was the closest I’ve ever gotten to getting an apology.

Sure, maybe I would be at my peak health if I ate vegan and no carbs (scientifically debatable). But restriction has ALWAYS led me to binge on junk food, without fail. Every. Single. Time. Even when I’ve been the one imposing the restriction on myself. If I could just eat normal foods in moderation, counting my calories, I would be fine. But my parents’ all-or-nothing approach takes a huge toll on me. And while their behavior isn’t the only explanation for my BED, my eating disorder still spirals out of control when I’m exposed to these people. And I feel like I have no hope for getting it under control while I’m living with them.

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i never thought I’d gain it back

I (22F) lost about 35lbs a few years ago. I started tracking calories on MFP in October of 2020, and by June 2021 I was at the thinnest I’d ever been. I continued to track for awhile, and then stopped and just ate intuitively. I managed to maintain my weight loss without tracking calories for a year and a half. In January 2023, I quit nicotine and gradually started to gain some weight (about 5-6lbs). I was okay with this, and stayed at that weight for the next year. But now, since Christmas, I have put on 10 more pounds! I’m now up a total of 15lbs from my goal weight.

I have made a few attempt to get back in the habit of tracking and making healthier choices, but nothing seems to stick. I keep telling myself that since I’ve done it before, I can do it again, but I keep getting discouraged. I guess I just thought I’d never be in this place again. I’m not back to my original starting weight from 2020, have about 15ish lbs to go for that, but I’m higher than I’m comfortable with.

I’ve also heard that losing weight the second time is a much slower process because our metabolisms have slowed from the original weight loss. I guess that also makes me want to just give up.

Has anyone else been in this situation before and successfully lost the weight a second time? And then maintained?

Thank you

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Sunday, March 3, 2024

Shaking the idea that your weight is the most important thing about you

I’ve lost significant amounts of weight a few times in my life (30-40lbs and then I regain) and have always been overweight or obese.

My family is pretty patriarchal, and it was clear to me that the most important thing about me was my appearance (and especially my weight). My father even once told me if he were as fat as me he would stop eating altogether, and no amount of scholastic achievement ever outweighed (sorry) how disappointed he was in me for being fat. This (and other experiences) mean that each time I get serious about losing weight again, it’s really hard to not devote all of my mental energy to it at the expense of the rest of my life, even though I’m in my 30s now.

The mindset that as a woman my appearance is more important than anything else though isn’t just my family, this is constantly the messaging women get in society and it’s very hard to shake. I have a PhD. I am literally a math professor. I have worked very hard for the life that I have now, and have accomplished things I never dreamed for myself. And still, when I look in the mirror and see that apron belly, or see that the “maybe someday I won’t be fat anymore and then I’ll finally be beautiful” idea is going to be replaced with “maybe someday I can just look old instead of fat and old” even though both of those are damaging, it’s hard for me to not spiral into disordered eating behaviors.

I started working on my Covid weight gain this year and am about 8 lbs down so far, and finally realized this is why I have such a hard time making room in my life for both weight loss and engaging meaningfully with the rest of my life and the things that I love. The first few weeks I was pre-logging the next day, watching supersize vs super skinny and secret eaters during any free moment, and I realized my favorite thing about going to sleep was waking up and weighing myself to see how much I had lost.

Now I can see why I fall so hard into this pathway and what are the forces encouraging that. I’m hoping this will help me have some more balance and self worth. Anyone else struggling with this?

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Weight loss 57 yr old woman

Hi everyone. I have steadily gained weight over the last several years, and having always been very thin it’s been tough to lose weight. I am down about 3-4 pounds in as many weeks but my weigh still fluctuates and some mornings I stare at the scale because I went up a pound or two despite being so careful. I am eating alot more protein and zero refined carbs. Is it normal that weight loss be so slow and painful? Would be interested in others opinions. FYI i would be very pleased to shed and keep off 10 pounds.

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