Tuesday, August 6, 2019

Athletes and Weight Loss: When is it detrimental to lose any more weight?

Hi folks! Male, 6’2”, 35, SW: 210, CW: 165, GW: ??? I’ve had a lousy relationship with food for most of my adult life. I have a pretty obsessive personality, so I’d typically work out like crazy during the spring and summer months, then get depressed during the long winters and eat myself into a rut. Pretty much every year for the last decade or so I’d swing from around 175 up to 220 every six months.

A few years back I decided to give running a try, and I fell in love. I made it a goal to run a marathon, and eventually I did. I’ve run a few races since then, and really think I owe any semblance of mental health to the goal-focused process of training for these marathons.

So this year, I decided to really focus on the CICO model to get in the best shape I could for an upcoming marathon, and I’ve dropped a little over 40 pounds since March. My run times are faster, my legs feel better, it’s been great. The ultimate question is- how much weight loss is too much for athletes? Is there some kind of formula to determine when it is no longer beneficial to be any lighter and you start to diminish your returns?

I feel like I could keep shedding pounds if I wanted to; my calorie budget is still totally achievable, and I could still cut back a bit without being too uncomfortable. At what point am I hurting my performance more than helping? How do you figure such a thing out other than trial and error?

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Thank you for teaching me how to succeed.

Hey! This is my second post on this sub, and in my previous post 2 days ago I described my unhealthy relationship with food and my struggles with exercise. I have a deep love for rowing, but accidents have stopped me from training several times and I keep falling of the bandwagon. I was ready to re-start a strict 5 workouts a week regime from nothing again and was looking for support. However, the comments were tough love and told me I was setting unrealistic expectations for myself. A bit sulky I logged off and didn't read any more comments.

The next day I started reading more posts on this sub, and it drastically changed my viewpoint. I already knew weight loss was mostly food, but I realized that being a perfectionist over and over again, expecting myself to go from nothing to heavy workouts again and wanting myself to just quit all junk food the same day, is setting myself up for failure. I read how many people lost 100s of pounds by "just" doing cico and allowing cheat days and meals, as long as they fit in the calorie amount of that day/week. I read about people who started with light cardio and did not yet move to strength training, and still reached their goal weight. I read how being so hard on yourself is just setting yourself up for failure, and allowing yourself to have bad days and just eat better the next days works way better. I learned a lot.

The things I'm taking from this sub are:

  • It's better to do cardio instead of nothing if weights are too intimidating. I was dreading going to the gym because I had high expectations for myself in terms of a lifting routine, which meant I wouldn't go at all. Reading a book on the stationary bike is better than not going at all, even if it doesn't meet my perfectionist expectations.
  • Starting with little works better in the long run. If I were to go through with the heavy workouts my rowing club provides, I'd most likely burn out within a month and then quit working out alltogether. If I start small, I can build at my own pace and stick with it.
  • Calorie counting is key. I knew it was important, but didn't think it'd be possible to lose weight without exercising. I now know this is possible, and won't beat myself up as hard if I miss a workout, as long as my calorie intake is still in check for the day.
  • You don't have to eat clean 100% of the time. It's not sustainable, and if a snack every once in a while can keep me from binging, it's better in the long run.
  • This community rocks! I'm super happy to have found this sub, and I'll keep lurking here for a long time. Seeing other people's accomplishments and reading how they did it greatly helped me set up my own list of things I think will work for me, and I'm convinced I finally have a good shot to reach my goals.

Thanks to everyone who posted or commented here, the stories I read convinced me I, too, can turn my life around and get where I want to be.

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Day 1? Starting your weight loss journey on Tuesday, 06 August 2019? Start here!

Today is your Day 1?

Welcome to r/Loseit!

So you aren’t sure of how to start? Don’t worry! “How do I get started?” is our most asked question. r/Loseit has helped our users lose over 1,000,000 recorded pounds and these are the steps that we’ve found most useful for getting started.

Why you’re overweight

Our bodies are amazing (yes, yours too!). In order to survive before supermarkets, we had to be able to store energy to get us through lean times, we store this energy as adipose fat tissue. If you put more energy into your body than it needs, it stores it, for (potential) later use. When you put in less than it needs, it uses the stored energy. The more energy you have stored, the more overweight you are. The trick is to get your body to use the stored energy, which can only be done if you give it less energy than it needs, consistently.

Before You Start

The very first step is calculating your calorie needs. You can do that HERE. This will give you an approximation of your calorie needs for the day. The next step is to figure how quickly you want to lose the fat. One pound of fat is equal to 3500 calories. So to lose 1 pound of fat per week you will need to consume 500 calories less than your TDEE (daily calorie needs from the link above). 750 calories less will result in 1.5 pounds and 1000 calories is an aggressive 2 pounds per week.

Tracking

Here is where it begins to resemble work. The most efficient way to lose the weight you desire is to track your calorie intake. This has gotten much simpler over the years and today it can be done right from your smartphone or computer. r/loseit recommends an app like MyFitnessPal, Loseit! (unaffiliated), or Cronometer. Create an account and be honest with it about your current stats, activities, and goals. This is your tracker and no one else needs to see it so don’t cheat the numbers. You’ll find large user created databases that make logging and tracking your food and drinks easy with just the tap of the screen or the push of a button. We also highly recommend the use of a digital kitchen scale for accuracy. Knowing how much of what you're eating is more important than what you're eating. Why? This may explain it.

Creating Your Deficit

How do you create a deficit? This is up to you. r/loseit has a few recommendations but ultimately that decision is yours. There is no perfect diet for everyone. There is a perfect diet for you and you can create it. You can eat less of exactly what you eat now. If you like pizza you can have pizza. Have 2 slices instead of 4. You can try lower calorie replacements for calorie dense foods. Some of the communities favorites are cauliflower rice, zucchini noodles, spaghetti squash in place of their more calorie rich cousins. If it appeals to you an entire dietary change like Keto, Paleo, Vegetarian.

The most important thing to remember is that this selection of foods works for you. Sustainability is the key to long term weight management success. If you hate what you’re eating you won’t stick to it.

Exercise

Is NOT mandatory. You can lose fat and create a deficit through diet alone. There is no requirement of exercise to lose weight.

It has it’s own benefits though. You will burn extra calories. Exercise is shown to be beneficial to mental health and creates an endorphin rush as well. It makes people feel awesome and has been linked to higher rates of long term success when physical activity is included in lifestyle changes.

Crawl, Walk, Run

It can seem like one needs to make a 180 degree course correction to find success. That isn’t necessarily true. Many of our users find that creating small initial changes that build a foundation allows them to progress forward in even, sustained, increments.

Acceptance

You will struggle. We have all struggled. This is natural. There is no tip or trick to get through this though. We encourage you to recognize why you are struggling and forgive yourself for whatever reason that may be. If you overindulged at your last meal that is ok. You can resolve to make the next meal better.

Do not let the pursuit of perfect get in the way of progress. We don’t need perfect. We just want better.

Additional resources

Now you’re ready to do this. Here are more details, that may help you refine your plan.

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Not eating enough?

I'm a male, 18 years old,174 cm, current weight is 82 and my goal is 70kg.

I started my weight loss journey 2 weeks ago aproximately and I've been using the CICO method, I use fatsecreet to track my calories and I'm not sure if the website is not accurate or I'm not eating enough, sometimes I log everything I eat in a day and it says I consumed less than 1000 calories but I don't feel hungry.

A normal day consists of:

Breakfast: 2 or 3 scrambled eggs with 2 slices of ham and 2 slices of whole wheat bread.

Lunch: Some tuna or chicken with vegetables.

Dinner: Oatmeal (with water) and a banana or an apple.

If I want to eat something more I eat dry anchovies with lemon as a snack and I drink at least 2 liters of water a day.

I feel like that's enough, I don't feel hungry, I don't feel tired, I feel normal, I don't have a scale in my house so it's not easy for me to see my weight and I'm not sure if there's been any change.

I read something about the minimum being 1500 calories for males and I feel like that's a lot, I would have to force myself to eat more even if I'm not hungry, I need help about this, I don't want to have more problems.

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Tired of Not being able to find Clothes. Journey Begins Now.

I’m sick of not being able to find clothes that fit me in stores like Calvin Klein, American Eagle, etc. I’m 20 and I have to wear drab clothes to find xxl-xxxl sizes. I hate it, and I’m embarassed when people want to get me clothes.

One of my goals is to get down to an XL, which realistically is probably going to be the smallest I can wear without it being too short on my torso.

I’m 20 years old, 6’5 and ~280lbs, so you can imagine the kind of effect this much weight is having on my relationships and self confidence. I gained ~35lbs these past two years of university and my goal for now is to get down to 220lbs or 20% body fat. Whichever is lower considering my muscle mass.

I’m looking for and am open to any advice and encouragement from you guys while I try to get myself into weight loss mode and monitor my eating again.

Sorry if i’m rambling on.

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Monday, August 5, 2019

Tantrum Tuesday - The Day to Rant!

I Rant, Therefore I Am

Well bla-de-da-da! What's making your blood boil? What's under your skin? What's making you see red? What's up in your craw? Let's hear your weight loss related rants!
The rant post is a /u/bladedada production.

Please consider saving your next rant for this weekly thread every Tuesday.

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Hey mods -- advice or rule or FAQ on emotional health issues?

Like in other advice / self-improvement related subreddits, I often see posts here that cite depression or other emotional health issues. Sometimes it's mentioned as a reason or excuse for weight problems or lack of weight loss success. Other times, it's not mentioned explicitly yet it's obvious that a person's weight and self-image issues are wrapped up in a high degree of hostility/despair/self-hate/whatever.

We (everybody, everywhere) tend to do a poor job of supporting people who need help in that area. And since /r/loseit members seem to do a great job of trying to help each other with weight loss, I'm curious what the community and the mods think about how to best address the needs of people whose weight loss situation also has emotional health factors. Should there be something in the FAQ for this? I think so.

I sometimes respond to people with something along the lines of "please consult your doctor/counselor/therapist so that they can help get you into a happy and healthy state", because I think it's risky for John Q Public to be offering unqualified advice to somebody who is vulnerable. I hope this doesn't come off as defeatist or obstructionist or condescending like "oh, you can't have or deserve weight loss because of your depression", but I do expect (and correct me if I'm wrong) that successful weight loss is a lot more difficult when you're not in a positive state of mind.

...thoughts?

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