Thursday, January 20, 2022

Searching for long term success stories

I got into a somewhat depressing discussion on twitter last night involving the lack of long term (5+ year) weight loss success stories. I tried to search for data and didn't find any. Found some 1 to 3 year success data but nothing longer term. So I'm asking this community if they know of any or even for anecdotal stories. We all need to know what we're doing will be potentially permanent change.

addendum - I'm especially interested in long term success keeping 50+ off

addendum #2 - apparently I need more words so that I hit some magical post requirement and the bots won't delete this post. (Reminds me of term papers that had to be 20 pages long when I could say what I needed in 10). So here's another question . . . Why aren't there any published studies about long term success and what would it take to have some?

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Is 15kg in 5 months achievable? (In a healthy way)

Hi so I have been on a weight loss journey for 3 years now, I’ve gotten fitter and fitter and found I just love being active to help my mental health. I have lost a total of 20kg from my first year, I was very strict, running 10km everyday and cutting out white carbs for only on weekends. Last year I was meh with my eating and fitness. This year I’ve started it off strong with eating healthy plus weight training and cardio. I train 5-6 times a week and burn 700-900 calories a day from my workout (I make sure I’m hitting 8km-10km of walking in my day with my weight training now). I have also put my body in a calorie deficit with my food to 1600. I am 173cm tall and weigh 83kg. I’m wanting to get down 15-20kg in the next 5-7 months.

Does this sound like I’ll be on the right track? I’m here for advice so please if you see I need to make adjustments I am fully open to hearing and taking it on board.

Is 15kg doable in 5 months? (In a healthy way).

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Not obese anymore :)

Day 65. Hey ^^

I am so happy since I posted here I really tried to stick to my diet. Read all the helpful tips in this subreddit and a lot of success stories and struggles. It kept me going. Now I am only overweight and I am so so so happy ^^ last I was this weight over 3 years ago. I could button up a "old" jeans (it still is uncomfortable but it boost my determination) :)

Thank you all for letting me take part in your journeys. Now I want to give back some of my experience:

What helped me most was

  • seeing my physician: talked about weight loss, got some bloodworks done and diagnosed with vitamin d deficiency. Now I take supplements and I feel great. For me it really is a big difference. If you feel like a permanently exhausted pigeon maybe get checked
  • Limiting food budget: in the past I just spent what I wanted on food. Now I have a tight budget and the rest (what i would usually spend on food) goes to my travel fund. So I really want to not overspend and this limits how often I can eat out or takeaway. So I buy more groceries and cook more myself bc it is simply cheaper -> and much healthier
  • Track my cal intake: for me it was very unconfortable and stressfull to stick to a daily cal goal. I could not meet it most of the time so I decided to switch to a weekly cal goal. I still count on a daily basis but it does not matter if I eat 1000 or 3000 cal as long as I reach my weekly cal deficit. And it works for me - with ease
  • Nothing is forbidden: do you know the pink elefant? ;) As soon as I wanted to ban something from my diet the more i wanted it. And the more it was a mental struggle to not think about it. Now nothing is forbidden. I can go to whatever fast food branch I want and eat what I want. but you know what? last time I was 8 days ago and I do not crave for any at all atm.

It was not easy all the time and I still hate exercising.

Keep struggeling and sharing your stories! It keeps me (and probably others too) going!

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Wednesday, January 19, 2022

Help me stop midnight snack habit

Hi! I need help to stop eating in the middle of the night. For about five months now, I have begun waking up in the middle of the night anywhere between midnight and 3 AM and eating a snack. It’s not a binge and I typically choose a protein bar or a protein cookie or some other comparable snack that I have on hand but still it is impacting my weight-loss efforts. I always log my snack in as a part of my breakfast in MFP and I eat anywhere from 1200-1450 cals per day and then burn about 200 cals walking for an hour or so every day. I don’t know what the problem is! It’s like I did it one night and then I just kept doing it. i’ve tried locking my bedroom door, I’ve tried eating a snack before I go to sleep, I’ve tried eating bigger dinners, and nothing seems to resolve it. I’m not fully conscious when I do it and sometimes I’m hungry and sometimes I think I just do it out of habit. Please help as I’m not making much progress with my weight loss and recomposition goals because of this. I’m 4’11” and 112lbs however before this I was about 107-108. I workout 5 days per week, averaging 10k steps per day and then at mainly moderate to low carb and higher protein. Help! Thank you!

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Accountability post/ am I doing this right?

30F - 5'2" - CW 155.8lbs - GW 139lbs

Just wanted to post somewhere, get my thoughts out and opinions on my method. 3 years ago now I was at my lowest weight (since I was a teen) of 142lbs after doing keto for about 6 months (I started at my highest of 167lbs). A few months I weighed myself and was back up to about 163. Long story short its been a tough year for me. This was sort of a wake up call.

I've calculated my TDEE etc and if I'm doing it right my maintenance calories are 1892. My goal is about 2.8 lbs/ month. I'm not in a rush like I was with Keto. Honestly it doesnt work for me long term. I worked it out and to lose this amount I should be eating 1514 calories per day. Currently I'm not using a food scale but doing my best to make educated estimates and I eat on average about 1200 calories per day during the work week. Its weekends that kill me but I'm becoming aware of that. I also fast most days between 7:30pm- 11:30am.

I guess I just feel down on myself cause I always told myself I would lose weight by the time I'm 30. Well here we are.

I just needed to get my thoughts out. Do my calculations sound right? I'm feeling good and I've been focused on tracking my calories for three days now. In addition I do a 45min walk 5x/ week (no gym due to stupid Ontario lockdowns but I'll be heading back there as soon as they open). Also the occasional 20 minutes random workout, pilates or yoga video I find on Youtube 1-2x/ week.

Really I'm looking for encouragement and tips. Weight loss has always been so hard for me. Honestly the only thing thats ever worked is keto which I'm not interested in right now. I feel like I'm always going through ups and downs. But I've always been on the curvier/ heavier side. Like with broad shoulders and more of a muscular body underneath the chub. Like my BMI says I should lose almost 40lbs to be considered healthy? Idk that just seems really daunting and I never wanted to lose that much weight but feeling inadequate cause of that.

Anyways, yeah.

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My thoughts at 30 pounds down: calorie guesstimation, breakfast, snoring, and more

First, a disclaimer: My experiences will not be relevant to everyone and what worked for me may not work for you. I am female, late twenties, 5’4”, with a stocky, muscular build. I started weight loss at 185 pounds, which is about 10 pounds into clinical obesity for my height. I have no history of disordered eating. Keep all those things in mind. That said—I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who do have some demographics in common with me and who might benefit from reading about my experiences. I’ve certainly enjoyed and benefited from reading your experiences. So here are all the big realizations I’ve had along the way.

I was a little overweight before the pandemic, and then, like many people, I piled on about 20 more pounds. As a side note, I was honestly terrified of trying to lose it. I read so many horribly discouraging articles from high-profile magazines, citing MDs and PhDs, talking about starvation mode and your body “wanting” to get back to its highest weight and stating that weight loss is almost impossible, so once you’ve gotten fat you should just make peace with it. I won’t lie, I was pretty devastated by those, because I was really unhappy with my body at that point and knew I couldn’t get any heavier. I want to thank this subreddit full of real people for helping open my eyes to the fact that those articles are usually at best disingenuous and at worst pernicious bullshit wearing a veneer of biology, even when they get published in the New York Times.

Anyway. Once I figured out how calorie counting actually worked I started playing with calculating a TDEE. This calculator is my favorite because it’s so comprehensive and has much more useful activity level options than most. I decided to aim for 1400-1500 calories per day and see what happened.

-My first breakthrough was that I don’t need breakfast. I don’t wake up very hungry, so why bother? Classic carb-heavy breakfast foods just make me hungrier anyway. That made eating within my daily goal a lot easier—I prefer to spread my calorie allowance across two meals, not three. I like big dinners, and I cannot lie. I haven’t formally cut a single thing out of my diet because fuck that, but as a result of ditching breakfast I’ve sort of accidentally stopped eating cereal. Which is probably fine. Find an eating schedule that works for you personally. Some people swear by breakfast and can pass on heavy dinners.

-My second breakthrough—and this one might be more controversial on this sub—is that with a little trial and error and research, it’s actually totally possible to lose weight estimating calories without weighing your food. I don’t even write anything down, I just keep a running mental tab. I knew there was no way I’d ever commit to weighing food, so I just decided to wing it, and it works fine. Plus, my partner cooks dinner almost every night, it’s often fairly complex, and I’m not about to stand at his elbow measuring all the ingredients. Again, Your Mileage May Vary, and you obviously have less room for mistakes if you have a very small TDEE, but you’d be surprised how good you can get at eyeballing shit with a little experimental weighing (“wtf does an ounce of cheese look like?”) and a lot of googling at first. If you’re totally psyched out by the idea of weighing your food? You might not have to.

-My third breakthrough was realizing that at about 10-15 pounds down, before I could even see any results aside from a slightly softer stomach when I lay on my back (I think my body got rid of the excess visceral fat first, which may not be very glamorous but is SO important to your health in the long run), a bunch of little physical annoyances just evaporated. The weird, vague, foot and ankle pain that had plagued me at a brisk walk for two years disappeared, along with episodes of tendinitis and plantar fasciitis. I also completely stopped snoring. It is amazing how many problems a little weight can cause. It’s interesting to note that for me, at least, these problems hit me right when I edged into obesity, and disappeared when I left it.

-My fourth breakthrough was realizing that I was losing a pound a week even though I couldn’t easily eat under 1500 calories a day without being uncomfortably ravenous. My TDEE is higher than calculators guess, and I’m pretty sure I can thank my muscles for that. I build muscle on my butt and thighs very easily. I used to be a barista, which kept me surprisingly toned, and now that I don’t stand up all day, I make up for it with at least a mile or two of walking every day and a set of lunges and squats a couple times a week. Muscle is hungry. Build some!

-My fifth and final breakthrough was the realization that maintenance breaks are good for you. Not only are they rest from the little built up physical stresses of deficit, they’re a trial run for later, even if your TDEE will still change. I took a long ~3 month break, starting after an injury, because who wants to heal broken bones on a deficit, which then blended into the holidays, because who wants to live in the house of an excellent baker and cook over the holidays on a deficit? I relaxed my mental counting, held onto my knowledge of the relative caloric densities of different foods, and…just maintained. It was easy! Now that I’ve unlearned excessive snacking it’s really easy to trust my actual hunger cues. I know this is another case where I’m lucky, because lots of peoples’ hunger cues are totally borked. But for me, I’m not worried about maintenance anymore because I know that A.) my body is actually adjusting to its new energy requirements and I have no reason to believe it won’t continue to do so and B.) although I may have my occasional big face-stuffing day on special occasions like everyone else, I’m just never going to be able to get back in the “eh, kinda nibbly, might have a second dinner” mindset because I have un-knowable knowledge of how caloric things are. Cheesecake ain’t a snack, etc. It’s like a gentle mental block, and frankly that’s a good thing. I still eat everything that I love, but I know how to be smarter about it. In short, I feel a lot better moving forward towards actual maintenance after my big break.

So that’s where I am now. Not quite done yet, although I feel great and am giddy about being down 2 pant sizes. I was perfectly happy at 145-150 in the past, even though that’s smack on the borderline of overweight/slightly overweight, so I may aim for 145 and see how I feel. I will never be small and dainty. No way will I ever be some calculators’ “ideal weight” of 119 pounds without contracting a horrible wasting disease, and that’s fine. I guess that’s actually my last realization: BMI is a great estimate but please don’t assume you need to be at the low end of normal for your height. Bodies are different.

That was long. Sorry. I hope something was helpful to someone!

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I want to help my mom

hello everyone, long time lurker here.

for context, I have recently lost ~40lbs and have switched to more healthy eating and fitness after moving out of my mom’s house. it was a very natural switch for me even though I was raised on fast food, junk, and normalization of binge eating.

I don’t necessarily think my mom is a binge eater. she just doesn’t care about her health and what she’s eating and has recently been diagnosed with diabetes. she continues to eat sugary and junk food anyway. she is very obese and it’s causing health problems and i am very worried about her. i was obese until i moved out because just living with her meant there would be no healthy food in the house. (i am very short so 40lbs has put me from low end of obese to about 23 bmi, im by no means done with my fitness journey)

recently she has recognized her need to lose weight, and noticing my own weight loss, asked me for help. i have tried giving her advice, and she’s taken to counting calories, but for whatever reason the app recommended her 1200 calories, and she wouldn’t listen to me when I said that’s too low. she exceeds this total every day, eating fast food and relapsing instead of ever even trying to eat healthy. i dont comment when she does this, because i know that she knows and it’s rude and discouraging.

how do i help my mom? im so worried. i just dont know if she can even recover. does anyone have experience with this, or began their weight loss journey at 45-60 years old?

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