Friday, May 3, 2019

What are your weight loss “tricks”?

I met a girl who had lost a ton of weight (100+ pounds). She looked like a totally different person in her before photos. I asked her which weight loss approach she took and it was basically just calories in/out, but she had some tricks:

  1. Set a “calories in” goal, but don’t stress if you go over or under a little bit (100-200 calories). It’ll all balance out.

  2. Change your mindset on working out. It doesn’t have to be a set time of day every day where you do some crazy workout. Do whatever workout you like, but realize that calories burned throughout the day add up, no matter how minimal. i.e. She said she would take her groceries into her house one bag at a time to get extra steps in.

  3. She struggled with bingeing, so she set some rules for herself. If she had the desire to binge, she would write out a short to-do list and do everything on that list (go for a walk, call a friend, etc.) If, after completing her to do list she still wanted to binge, she would go to the store and pick out all the junk food that she was craving, come home and give herself an hour to eat what she wanted from it. But it had to be done sitting at the table. Once the hour was up, she threw the rest of it away. She said she limited these “binge sessions” but just knowing she had the option to binge if she really wanted to was enough for her not to.

Bingeing has been a life long struggle of mine. The whole, “Diet starts tomorrow so I’ve gotta eat everything I can today” mindset has followed me around forever and I’m trying to break free of it, and just the all or nothing mindset in general. I want to work smarter, not harder at being in shape. So what are your tricks?

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"It always seems impossible until it is done" two years, 137lbs lost, and I no longer believe in impossible

Let's start with what everyone enjoys. Here's my before and after.

Two years ago I was 273 lbs and wearing a size 24W; today I'm 136 and a size 2.

(Skip this section if you don't want to read my story of weight loss and just want the things I learned at the bottom)

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It wasn't the first time I'd tried to lose weight, and it wasn't the 10th time either. I've been overweight since I was a child. I'd have to go back to fifth grade to remember a time that I weighed less than I do now. I'd tried and failed, tried and given up, tried and became bulimic, and then just gave up.

However, two years ago my mom had a massive heart attack and almost died at 59. My dad died of a heart attack at 65. Everyone in my family was obese and had a myriad of health issues (mostly heart and diabetes related). My health wasn't the best either. Not just physical health. My mental health was awful. I hated and was disgusted with myself. I couldn't look in a mirror and be happy. Still, I didn't want to die. I didn't want to be thinking how at 29 my life was almost half over if I continued on this path. My great grandparents and grandparents had lived into their 90's and early 100s. I didn't want to be looking at death in my 60s like my parents.

So I decided to make some real changes.

I started trying to eat healthier. I started trying to move a bit more. I felt so ridiculous the first time I tried to follow some at home exercise. It all seemed pointless, and I felt like a fool. Still I did it. I also started therapy. I really started trying to work on my self image and to learn to love myself.

For once in my life I wasn't going to look at weight loss as a punishment or some sort of ordeal to be faced due to the "sin" of being fat. I strived to look at this as changing in ways to take care of myself. Changing in ways to be healthy because part of loving yourself is taking proper care of yourself. Some may not agree with it, but I developed the mindset that the most body positive thing I could do would be to lose weight as part of becoming healthy.

The first 40lbs came off pretty easily. It was simply changing my diet to be healthier with more home cooking and walking around a bit more. There wasn't anything special needed. However, it was in the low 230's that I started to stall.

So after some time researching and learning more about CICO and nutrition, I decided to start counting calories. I set a goal of 1500 calories. I also started trying to not just walk, but to actually run as well.

My first attempt at running was a failure. So was the second and the 20th attempt. Finally I went to a doctor, and I was diagnosed with exercise induced bronchiospasms (basically asthma that is only activated by physical activity). Did I give up? No. Past me would have, but not anymore. I got a prescription for an inhaler and kept trying to run.

Meanwhile I didn't just want to limit calories. I wanted to be healthy about it. At 1500 a day I really needed to focus on nutrition. I had thought my diet was good before, but it drastically improved now. I started focusing on getting all my nutrient needs. I learned to cook a lot of my favorite take out meals. I started packing lunch every day. I kept at it.

Running was getting better, and I was inconsistently going to the gym, and that really started to further motivate me. I realized I really love to run. I love how it feels, and I love how different I feel compared to how I used to be.

This continued on for a year and several months until one day I hit a point where losing weight was getting really hard. It was starting to impact my ability to improve in running and fitness. At that point I weighed 140lbs. By then I had set a goal for myself of 130, but I decided I wanted to improve in fitness more than I wanted to lose more weight. So I said hell to my goal, and I decided to slowly build back up to maintenance. Over the next month and a half I lost 4 more lbs and reached my maintenance calories.

Since then I've been maintaining and experimenting with different styles of maintenance. For awhile I was trying to stop tracking calories, but I've started up again so as to do an experiment of seeing what would happen if I ate at the caloric level that my apple watch says is my maintenance. Surprisingly, I have actually maintained my weight for the past three weeks of doing this. It's been weird, but really cool.

Now today, two years later, I am a completely different person. My entire diet has changed. My habits have changes. My life has changed. I went from a 273 lb sedentary, pack a day smoker with a all sorts of health issues, to being 136 lbs, a non-smoker, able to run 10 miles whenever I feel like it, can spend an entire day lifting weights and still function tomorrow, and never feel afraid that I'm not physically able to do something.

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Things I learned:

Make lifestyle changes. Don't do a temporary diet. As you plan out changes, ask yourself if this is a change that can be permanent. Your weight is a collection of all your current habits and diet. Your goal weight will be a collection of new habits and diets.

The one exception to this is if you have a large amount of weight to lose. You're almost certainly going to have to count calories at some point. That probably won't be a permanent thing, but it will be something that you're going to have to do for awhile.

Exercise

Yes, you don't need exercise to lose weight, but it makes it easier. Plus there have been multiple studies that show that exercise is needed to maintain weight loss, especially for large weight loss. You don't need a lot, but you do need to have a moderate amount. Here's a video that talks about it. Also, exercise is going to be important for giving you the body you want. I see people on here who post all the time that are my height and weight, yet are wearing clothes that are multiple sizes bigger and have a lot more stomach fat than I now do. Exercise is the key defining difference between being fit and healthy, and being someone who ends up being skinny fat and needing to drop to an excessively low weight to look in shape.

You don't have to do the gym and running, but find something that will keep you physically active. Find some sort of hobby you can do that gets you regularly moving. It really doesn't matter what it is, just find something.

Again, the exception here is if you have a large amount to lose. If you're looking at losing 80, 100 lbs, or more, then you're going to have to hit the gym at some point. It's basically rehabilitative therapy for your body. It's the only way to undo the damage that that much excessive weight has caused. You don't have to go every day, but you'll need to go at least 2-3 times a week for awhile so you can rebuild muscle and fix all the muscle imbalances that morbid obesity causes to your body.

Nutrition:

Calorie counting, intermittent fasting, or anything else you use will help you lose weight, but if you want to be healthy than you have to think about your nutrition. You need to make changes to that. You can start small, I did, and let it build, but you gotta get to a place where your diet is like 90% healthy and only 10% (or less) of junk food. Plus, proper nutrition will allow you to be a lot less hungry while on a deficit. So you know, that helps a lot when you're looking at a year or two of having to be on a deficit every day.

Mental Health:

If you deal with emotional issues, I sure did, then give therapy a try. Work on your mind as well as your body. The two are connected. If your mind isn't organized, then your body will be similar. Your diet will be similar. Your physical appearance will represent how you feel about yourself.

I know this will be hard for many, but try to work towards a place where you love yourself. Try to find a way where you are doing this out of love and caring for yourself. If you hate yourself, if you think of yourself as a failure or a loser, then you're going to fail. You've already decided that you'll fail before you even started. You're not a failure though. You're not a loser. The fact that you're here and going about your day shows how strong you are. You can do this, and I truly hope that you can believe that you can.

Most importantly, never give up. There will be set backs. You will have times when you struggle. You're going to feel foolish and anxious. Starting at the gym will feel awkward. Some days your motivation will wane. You'll want to give up. Don't. Just keep going. Make it a habit. This is a part of your day. It's brushing your teeth. You do it every day because you need to.

Remember, you live every moment of every day in your body, that means that you need to spend every day maintaining and caring for your body.

Bonus - transitioning to maintenance

A few weeks into maintenance I experienced a period of intense hunger. It was beyond any level I'd experienced while losing weight. After much research, I found out it is a side effect usually seen as part of ED recovery where your body wants to be refed. (There's not much on what long term deficits do to your body outside of ED research so that ended up being the only info that explained it.) I had to watch my diet carefully for about a month, but then the hunger went away. I don't know if everyone will experience this, but you may want to watch out for it when you switch to maintenance. The good thing is that everything I read, and my own experience, is that it does go away eventually.

Weaning off calorie counting is scary, but the longer I'm at maintenance the easier it is. Yes, I'm still counting calories for my smart watch experiment, but I don't feel beholden to them like I did when losing weight and during the first couple months of maintenance. I'm not afraid of going out to eat with friends and just guesstimating things. That's important to be able to lead a normal life. Go about it at the speed your comfortable. Every so often take a day where you just guess at calories, then move on to taking a day where you do zero tracking. Let yourself see that you're not gaining weight.

As I've experimented with different styles of maintenance, I've discovered that some days I naturally feel less hungry so I end up undereating a bit. Other days I over eat. It all balances out though. Knowing that has been helpful in feeling a lot less afraid of eating too much. It all keeps balancing out so I'm all good.

Don't forget that you lost the weight, and now you know how to lose weight easily. You can always lose again. So don't be afraid to experiment with different styles of maintenance. Just watch your weight. If you start trending up, say 5 lbs above your goal line, then you can simply spend a couple weeks at a deficit and be good again. So it's really not that big of a deal.

Best of luck all.

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Lurker - 27F 5'4" SW: 198 CW: 194 GW: 140

Hi everyone. I'm a lurker who has just started a new journey this week. I've been chubby most of my life, and have always hovered between 150 - 165lbs. Between 2013 - 2015, I put on 50 pounds from the stress of college and a few very severe depressive episodes.

I managed to get back down to 173 in early 2018, then gained it all back later that year, which ended up being the most stressful, chaotic year of my life. (I'm actually surprised I didn't gain even more weight during that time.) Though, that experience wasn't totally pointless - it's become ingrained for me to avoid excess sugar. I hope other healthy eating habits become similarly ingrained.

Since I'm now finally in a stable position with no more uncertainties, there's no better time than than now to crack down on my diet.

I'm also planning on signing up for a gym membership. I know weight loss primarily comes from diet, but since I work a desk job I need to be less sedentary. It'll make me feel better.

I've set a goal of 1350 for CICO, but I might adjust it depending on how much I end up exercising. I plan to eat healthy most of the time and allow myself one indulgence a week, so long as I carefully budget for it. (I need to keep my Friday pizza night in order to stay sane, it gives me something to look forward to all week!)

I look forward to hearing from everyone and participating in this sub!

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Starting....Again.....Hope to take advantage of the support from a like minded community

I've been lurking on Reddit for a while and finally decided to make an account a little while ago after finding this sub. Now I have finally mustered up the courage to make a post about my journey.

(Warning: humblebrag ahead)

I have always struggled with weight since a little kid. This caused issues between my father and I throughout my entire childhood/adolescence; he was always an athlete and cool kid in his youth and didn't know how to handle a son who was the exact opposite. In High School I was chubby but still fairly active riding my bike, playing basketball, and lifting weights. I started getting into powerlifting by my Sr. year in HS and got fairly strong, but not thin (look up powerlifters and you'll see what I'm talking about). Had just broken the 300lb barrier on bench and then had a bad ATV wreck that injured my left shoulder, which put a big damper on the benching. Afterwards I still tried keeping up with the lifting but that waned and completely stopped as I graduated HS and started college. Life got a little harder and busier, my eating habits have never been great and the newfound financial freedom of having my own job and money only exacerbated that fact. In HS I had stayed at about 230lbs at my heaviest and by the end of my first year in college I had broken 280lbs. I had gotten to the point where I had trouble walking up stairs and everything I did made my breathing heavy. Over that summer I decided that enough was enough.

I started trying to run and at first couldn't even get to the end of the block without giving up; I kept at it and to make my long story short, I lost 100lbs in a little less than a year. I went from 280lbs to 180lbs and from barely able to jog to the end of my block to running a full marathon. From there I kept the weight off and continued running and becoming ever more active. I started running faster, mountain biking, joined a crossfit gym for a bit and just overall became a pretty intense weekend warrior type. I was lighter and more fit than I had ever been in my life. Well....life happened and I lost my grandmother (the only grandparent that I had ever been close to) which started a whole slew of mental issues with myself. This all led to me getting lazy and making excuses so I started neglecting my physical activities and routines and kept telling myself that it was all due to increasing school workload and job responsibilities which caused me to slowly regress to my bad eating habits and sedentary lifestyle and then some.

About a decade after I started my weight loss journey I found myself tipping the scales at about 250lbs and climbing. By that point in my life I had graduated college, gotten married, had a kid and was working a full time job (I was busy). Then to top it off I had been laid off and struggled getting back on my feet, I was unemployed for over 1.5 years which only made me turn to food more. I gained another 30lbs and have been there for the past several years. My life is finally starting to come together to where I feel mentally able to handle the mental stress that changing one's lifestyle brings with it.

So, a couple of weeks ago I finally decided that I was going to try a little harder. I have started counting my calories, keeping myself under 2000 calories/day, and am down to just under 260lbs now. I hope to be able to share my experience and get motivated by reading about all your journeys and accomplishments.

TL;DR: Have always been fat, got fatter in college, got skinny and fit, life happened and got fat again, now trying to not be fat anymore....again.

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Unsure of where to start when I need to lose 150-ish pounds.

I’m 5’10”, 300lbs, and 23F. I’ve always been overweight and have a very unhealthy relationship with food. I’m looking to fix that and lose weight to be healthy.

I know about MyFitnessPal and I’ve tried to use it, but I always run into trouble. There’s always so many options for the same foods with different calories and I’m very bad at measuring and guesstimating. I also have no clue what type of eating habits I should have. Keto, fasting, restricting calories, etc. I don’t know where to begin or what to try. I feel very overwhelmed by it.

As far as working out (though I do know most weight loss happens in the kitchen, I do have some fitness goals). My fitness goals are pretty basic to start, such as being able to walk longer/easier. I have a Fitbit to track steps. I want to do daily walks. I’m joining a gym next week, but I’m unsure of what exercises would be good for a beginner. I’m also going to have limited time in the gym for now (think 30-45 minutes daily).

Sorry for the wall of text, or formatting issues, I’m on mobile. But I really appreciate advice on fitness or eating!

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Coming out of lurking - vegan/IBS?

Stats: 27F, 5'1", at my highest I was 139lbs. I'm 126 ish now, was closer to 115-120 in college.

I've lurked here on and off over the past few years, especially a few years ago when I was creeping up towards 140 and caught the weight gain before it became a really serious issue. I was anxious and unhappy at my job then, and was eating WAY too much for how little I exercised. I had always been called "skinny" by my friends and felt good about my body...until a no-longer-a-friend told me I wasn't really hot anymore, at least compared to other women. Putting aside the BS of super athletic & super skinny = only way to be"hot", I realized there were a lot of things I wasn't happy about in my life, including how I felt in my body. I bought a Fitbit and a scale, tracked all my food, and started running and doing Fitstar workouts. I lost about 20 lbs within a few months and then kinda got off the wagon, so I'm back up at 126 and trying to just feel more healthy.

I know my weight loss isn't as much as maybe some other people on this thread, but some of what is said here feels very relevant. I have a hard time not eating too much, which between that and anxiety, causes some painful episodes of IBS. I am also trying to go mostly vegan so while I think CICO is the best way to lose weight (worked great for me before!), I'm trying to learn more about being vegan but also eating easily-digestible foods (again, the IBS thing, which also causes bloating and therefore makes me look bigger than I am on the scale) and getting enough protein. I really look forward to continuing to run and push myself cardio-wise, as I want to treat my heart better.

Thanks everyone for letting me lurk! If you have any suggestions for vegan/non-inflammatory things that are fun to cook (I'm a great cook-- makes it easy to overeat!), apps or workout schedules, etc. let me know!

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Well on my way, here's some things I've learned

M30 6’0” SW: 323 CW: 276 GW: 190 Week: 15 I think I’ve found a contribution for this sub that’s been so helpful. I’ve kept a journal for years and I want to share some interesting comparisons between my initial assumptions about the weight loss process, versus the lived reality. It might prove useful to others with similar preconceptions.

  1. Loose Skin: This was a real boogieman for me. Also a blame shifted way to cop out. When I was considering weight loss a few years ago and started hearing about it I thought: “Well crap, plenty of people told me I’d be healthier if I stopped gaining weight but no one mentioned that the cosmetic damage would become irreversible except through prohibitively horrifying surgery! There’s not much point to losing weight if I can’t reap the social benefits of looking healthy.” Turns out loose skin is not a given. Granted I’m not yet to the point where I can confirm that unequivocally, because I’m only 1/3 of the way there and the square/cube law may yet rear it’s head, but as of now I’ve had excellent face, neck, upper arm and thigh losses as well as visible progress in the torso. There is nowhere on my body where I can pinch and pull away a flap like loose skin sufferers describe. Everything that is exposed while wearing a tank top is nearly as fat free as it’s going to get and looks good. I’ll be surprised if I don’t eventually have at least some looseness around the torso but it’s already clear that it’ll be nothing like as bad as I feared.

  2. Time Cost: I assumed that between exercise, meal planning, grocery shopping, cooking, and cleanup I was going to lose all of my free time. And for the first week or two, when everything required a lot of consideration and trial and error, and I didn’t have the right tools, that was basically true. But once I’d established my staple meals, programmed them into my calorie counter, streamlined my kitchen, and created a fixed shopping list, the time cost of eating correctly dropped from several hours per day to about 40-50 minutes per day all inclusive. That’s still a big chunk out of a busy day, so I wasn’t entirely wrong to worry about it. I was right to clear my after work schedule for the first week, in order to pay the upfront learning curve costs. And I have had to simply cut back on my precious screen time (note the new Reddit account) to find the time to do so. But I haven’t had to restructure my whole life around this project, the way I thought I would. Partially that’s because the method I’m using treats exercise as a bonus, not a necessity, and partially because I’m not getting inventive with the cooking. I might do a write up on that as well if asked.

  3. It can’t feel good: “Calorie excess feels good, calorie deficit must feel bad” Before I began, I understood that whatever methods one might use to loose weight they all ultimately amount to CICO. I’d never run a sustained calorie deficit in my life and I assumed, since the process of losing weight is caused by the same circumstances as starvation, that the former must feel like the latter. Less painful perhaps, but surely not painless, and no less constant. My notes at the time paraphrased: “I don’t think I could deal with being hungry all the time” But it turns out that hunger is the sensation of an empty stomach and it’s only as related to calorie intake as you let it be. When planning my staple meals (with the help of this forum) I considered fiber, calorie density, and bio-availability of those calories. not just Calorie In Calorie Out. CICO, while crucial, can be a trap if approached naively. It would let me eat whatever I wanted up to my daily limit, but might allow me to pack my budget into some super dense stuff that leaves the digestive system painfully empty.

  4. Planning a diet around these additional considerations sounds complicated: That’s because it is. But that’s what established diets you can find on this forum are for, ultimately they are the relatively streamlined systems covering up raw CICO to help you avoid it’s pitfalls and analysis paralysis. I use a homebrew system but its results are very similar to some established low-meat diets you can find here. Ultimately whatever framework you use you just have to create a few meals with it, make sure they’re repeatable and voluminous enough to keep you filled, and then you can stop thinking about it.

  5. Running a deficit must impact cognition: As far as cognition goes I haven’t noticed a difference, not the improvement described by some testimonials and not the fuzzy sluggishness described by others. I suspect that the energy supply to the brain is not throttled significantly or at all prior to the unleashing of fat reserves and that the impairment experienced by some dieters has more to do with other factors like deficiencies in specific micro nutrients, falling short of the minimum safe daily intake, or the distracting sensation of hunger brought on by compensating for an overly calorie dense food selection.

  6. Food waste is a problem when cooking for yourself: I thought I was speaking from experience with this one since I’d made attempts to cook in years past and wasted all kinds of food. But once I had a limited set of staples that I became practiced at making, and that I cooked at scheduled times my food waste quickly dropped to zero. The trick is routine.

Hopefully some of you find a few of these useful. Good luck in your own efforts.

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