Sunday, June 7, 2020

What’s the best thing you have bought to aid your weight loss journey?

Not sure if my wording is correct but I used to reward myself with food when I would lose, if I was successful all week I would go to my favorite restaurant or bakery on the weekend etc and I’m trying to get away from any food related rewards so I’ve been ordering things that will motivate me and feel like rewards. So far I got new wireless sport headphones for music when I jog, a nice new pair of running shoes, a new body weight scale and food scale and I’ve been ordering interesting foods to try that are better than regular junk like snacklins and built bars. Just looking for some more things to look into that others were happy they bought. TIA

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Adjust MFP recommendations?

I am 324lbs and have 100+ lbs to lose to reach my goal. I have been using MFP doing CICO and using FitBit to get at least 10k steps/day and some exercise in daily for the last 45ish days. MFP suggests that I start at 1840 cals/day for 2lb per week weight loss, but I read a lot of people on this sub saying they are at 1200-1400/day who are sometimes in the same-ish weight range as me.

Do you all adjust the recommendations that MFP gives to get to those numbers or am I missing something? I don’t eat back any calories gained from exercise and just want to be sure I continue seeing numbers drop so I don’t lose that motivation.

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When is a plateau something to worry about vs just a little water weight "stall"?

Hi all! I've been on my weight loss journey since March or so, and I've been extremely consistent at losing roughly 2 lbs per week. Almost every week, it's been 1.7-2 lbs lost, sticking to 1200 calories + some light exercise (usually a 4 mile walk and yoga).

While I knew the 2 lbs thing wouldn't last for ever, this past week, my weight loss ground to a halt. My average from this week vs last week was only a .2 lb loss. Yes, it's still a loss, but it's so inconsistent with the pattern I've seen earlier. This whole past week I've been floating around 177.8.

The one silver lining is that my BF% is down .5%. While my weight hasn't changed, this .5% loss has been the consistent pattern since starting my journey week over week which makes me think something is still "working". So, how long do I wait it out to see if this is just a super weird water weight week for me, or if I need to change something? I've thought through this week, and seriously can't think of anything that has been particularly out of the ordinary (ie, no new exercise routine, nothing hormonal, no big change in diet).

Any thoughts are appreciated!

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Lessons on losing 100lbs

So, five minutes ago I weighed in at 227.6 which puts me exactly 100lbs down from Jan 2019. I started 73 weeks ago but have only been doing this seriously for 55 weeks (over which I am down 89.4lbs or 1.63 per week)

I will try to (semi-briefly) show some stats and summarize the big lessons that I hope might be helpful.

So I kinda loafed for the first 18 weeks (lost 10.6lbs) but then I started to keep track of everything and kick things into gear.

Starting from 313.8 mid May 2019 here are the stats:

1st 26 weeks. 79 Workouts (just over 3 a week) consisting of like 20 minutes cardio and 4 weight exercises @ 3 reps each. 2017 calories averaged per day.

I lost 52.8lbs

Lesson - When you're big, a relatively moderate amount of effort is going to lead to results. And this is with a 45 year old metabolism. If I had been 25 I'd have lost even more.

2nd 26 weeks. 117 workouts (4.5 per week). 1970 calories averaged per day.

I lost 33.2lbs

Lesson - Once the "easy" loses are taken care of, this is a big fight. I ate 8500 fewer calories, worked out 48% more and lost 37% fewer lbs per week. Which, of course makes sense, I was not using calories to maintain 52.8 extra lbs of weight.

Some general thoughts.

1) Weigh everything. Packages are often over filled. The protein bar says 260 calories for 68g but it probably weights 69-72g. So I weigh them in package and mark them with a sharpie as to their actual weight so I can accurately add the calories.

2) Create your own calorie count bible that makes it easy (or use one of the million calorie counting apps). So, for example, I eat a lot of roast veggies. I know by heart that green beans are 31 calories for 100g. I also know that 1/3 tbsp is 40 calories of olive oil. Knowing that means I reduce the pain in the butt that is calorie counting when I weigh out 100g of green beans to roast and can immediately add 71 calories to the tally. So I have a word document that has the calories per gram (easier to multiply odd numbers that way) of all the foods I regularly eat.

3) You almost certainly have to accept that success means making 90% of your own meals. It kinda is what it is. That 800 calorie restaurant burger is probably 900 or 1000 calories when served (calorie counts are based on a perfect burger submitted to a lab for testing, when actually cooked for you it is generally going to be higher calorie because they aren't weighing the mayo they put on). It is going to be very very hard to succeed at this if somebody else is making your food. The reason things in restaurants are more delicious than when you make them is fat. Butter and oil make things tasty.

4) Make goals that are not binary (i.e. pass/fail). I have a grading system based on calories. So 1700 is an A, 1700-1850 is a B and so on. My goal is to average a B+. The idea is pretty straightforward. Create a system that allows for "bad" days. So I could get to my goal with a bunch of combinations. 1 A and 7 B's will do it. So will 3 A's and 4 C's. So will 4 A's a B, C and an F. I also have a grade called an X which is like getting a 0. 6 A's and an X is a narrow fail.

The logic is simple. Limit damage. If I am sitting here at 8pm and hungry and I've eaten 1700 calories, I have to choose how bad I am going to fall. 150 calories drops me to a B, 300 drops me to a C, 500 drops to a D, 1000 to an F and over a 1000 drop is an X. If I didn't have these specific calories I would have much more of a "screw it I've failed" mentality and eat worse.

5) Revise your goals say every three months, four or six months. My "A" has not changed as of yet (1700 calories) but a B sure has. It started 1700-2000 calories, then went 1700-1900 and now it is 1700-1850 (where it will remain for 23 more weeks and then change again...it will become either 1650-1800 or 1700-1800 I have not decided yet if I am going to lower my A yet).

6) Make goals based on your own psyche and what you are achieving. Let's pick workouts. My goal is to average 3.5 workouts per week. To me this is a reasonably achievable goal. 2 would be too easy and lead to fewer workouts, 5 is too many. If you are the kind of person who gets discouraged easily then maybe 2 is a good goal (or if you have no history of working out or hate it), if you are a high achiever who is going to be more driven by an impossible goal then maybe 5 works. You have to find whatever sweet spot there is for you that makes you want to hit the goal (i.e. be hard) but not slack off if you've hit the goal by Wednesday and lie on the couch for 4 days (i.e. be too easy). Further, change your goals based on what you are actually doing. If you're working out 5 days a week for like four months, having a goal of 3 per week isn't doing you any good. My theory is that a good goal is one you should juuust fail to meet or juuuust succeed in making. It's supposed to be hard. It's a goal.

7) I think it would be generally helpful to have a goal that is specific and not centered around just losing weight. This is going to be really hard for lots of people but I think "running a 5K" is a much better goal than "I want to be thinner" on average. For me, I want to do a big hike late next year and I need to be waaay fitter and lighter than I am today. When I do 25 flight stair climb(s) (I can only manage 1 so far). I am motivated to that because I know that hiking in mountains isn't going to be possible without it. I am not sure I could motivate myself to schlep up and down flights of stairs if I didn't have a specific goal in mind. (note: This does mean that when you achieve the goal, you need to pick a new one as it would be way too easy to be "yep, I climbed Kilimanjaro now I can eat Doritos". )

The reason for this is simple. If you want to lose weight to say meet somebody romantically that's fine but there are no guarantees that losing 100lbs is going to magically make the person of your dreams come into your life. Are you stacking the odds in your favor? Absolutely. But something specific that is achievable through weight loss (that you actually care about) is going to be a better motivator on down days. I have always dreamed of seeing Mount Everest in person and doing the Everest base camp hike has been a dream for a long time. Giving myself three years to get fit and do it has been really beneficial on down days. It is always in the back of my mind that if I cannot get under 200lbs by the end of this year, I can't even think about doing the hike at the end of next.

8) Give exercise a chance but if you're not enjoying it then find something else. I have a history of gymming and lifting weights is something I really enjoy. I get bored of cardio but 20 minutes is long enough to have some impact but short enough that I can get through it. Lunges are great exercises. I hate lunges. So I don't do them. Better to do a sub-optimal workout than no workout. So I have consciously chosen things I like (shoulder press, bench press, rows, biking) that cover the major muscle groups and avoid things I hate (like burpees) because I am just not going to do them. But you have to give something a legit chance.

9) You are, sadly, likely going to have issues with people in your life. Some of my friends have been very supportive, others less so. My own mother (on zoom) was like "It's a pandemic, just eat" because, to her, my succeeding shines a light on her own weight failures. Pre pandemic I was talking camping plans for the summer and my buddy was talking about all the high calorie food he wanted to bring and was actually upset with me for saying that I was going to bring some salmon and such. I hope you are lucky and everyone in your life is supportive but it has taken a long time for people to understand this is what it is. I went socially distance biking with my friend yesterday and he suggested we pick up junk take out on the way home and, for the first time, he accepted it without argument when I said I'd grab lunch at home because I wanted to hit 100lbs down today and couldn't have any junk.

Enough rambling, I hope any of this is helpful. I have 52.6 to go and today is chest/back so I gotta get on that! :)

If a 327.6lb middle aged fat guy can do this, so can you! The day I started I could barely walk up two flights of stairs without puffing for 10 minutes. The other day I got up 25 flights without a break (granted, my legs felt like jello and I was puffing like mad but 1,000,000% progress).

EDIT: Just adding some stuff

10) I tolerate steamed broccoli. I LOVE roast broccoli. This is always going to work better if you can figure out foods you enjoy and work with those confines. Steamed broccoli is def lower calorie than roast (i.e because of the olive oil) but making every meal a chore is going to kill your motivation. I make a rice bowl of roast broccoli, roast green beans, and extra lean ground beef that clocks in at 685 calories and makes for a delicious dinner. Cut the rice in half and it is 555, eliminate it and it's 425. Don't force yourself to eat celery if you hate celery, it never works.

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Finally beating my eating disorder! 112kg to 86kg to 76kg - M33

https://imgur.com/a/UKjOKKz - 112kg in first pic (2018) > 86kg (Mar 2020) > 76kg (June 2020) in final two pics

I am now the lightest I've been since uni, while eating more calories and being stronger than ever.

Having had binge eating disorder for the past 12 years, constantly going up/down I have now found a system that works for me and I finally feel stable and that this is sustainable.

My goal is about 70kg so I have a way to go yet but I'm feeling great so far!

I am eating around 1500 calories, though started in March at 1200 and plan on increasing to between 1600 and 1800 depending on how my TDEE goes. I'm tracking numbers and statistics almost obsessionally but I enjoy that aspect of it and it's helping me so much.

I do eat plant based, as much whole foods as possible and have also been following the advice of Dr Greger from his books for additional boosts to weight loss.

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Under 200lbs for the first time in 8 years, here's some face gains

Before/current

27F/ SW: 222 CW: 188 GW: 150

Before & after were taken 7 months apart. It's been slow, but that's okay! Last year was a particularly hard year for me mentally because of my self image. It was a pretty dark time. I had no self love whatsoever. I just hated my body & what it had become. I learned I had hypothyroidism (& I'm still in the process of treating that.) Then I got to work. I started cutting back on fast food, sugar, and honestly, just cutting back on my portions. I started paying attention to what I put in my body & how much. I learned to say no. I work in an office setting, so I'm just now implementing some cardio a few days a week. Nothing special! But, the most valuable thing I learned through this whole process, is to love myself & be kinder to myself. And that doesn't have anything to do with weight loss. That was an entirely different journey than this! So to anyone else out there that finds themselves engaging in negative self talk, STOP. Your body has been through so much, & deserves SO much more than what we think or say about ourselves. And don't get down on yourself if you're not losing weight quickly. Slow & steady is totally okay! I've learned so much from this community & you all inspire me everyday, love you guys!

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I don't know how my stomach looks

Since I've been 14, I've sucked in my tummy. Not completely, just enough that it didn't look huge. I'm now 18, and a little over a month into my weight loss journey. I've lost 8,8 pounds! (CICO)
I took a picture of myself in the beginning, and I don't really know if I look any smaller, because when I'm not holding in my stomach, I'm then blowing it out. I think?

I have no clue how I'm supposed to hold myself, and I don't know if what I'm going off of is wrong. Please tell me that someone else has had this problem and how you worked with yourself because I feel at a loss. I'm not going to stop eating healthy and working out, but I also want to rest in myself.

Help?

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