Wednesday, January 19, 2022

My thoughts at 30 pounds down: calorie guesstimation, breakfast, snoring, and more

First, a disclaimer: My experiences will not be relevant to everyone and what worked for me may not work for you. I am female, late twenties, 5’4”, with a stocky, muscular build. I started weight loss at 185 pounds, which is about 10 pounds into clinical obesity for my height. I have no history of disordered eating. Keep all those things in mind. That said—I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who do have some demographics in common with me and who might benefit from reading about my experiences. I’ve certainly enjoyed and benefited from reading your experiences. So here are all the big realizations I’ve had along the way.

I was a little overweight before the pandemic, and then, like many people, I piled on about 20 more pounds. As a side note, I was honestly terrified of trying to lose it. I read so many horribly discouraging articles from high-profile magazines, citing MDs and PhDs, talking about starvation mode and your body “wanting” to get back to its highest weight and stating that weight loss is almost impossible, so once you’ve gotten fat you should just make peace with it. I won’t lie, I was pretty devastated by those, because I was really unhappy with my body at that point and knew I couldn’t get any heavier. I want to thank this subreddit full of real people for helping open my eyes to the fact that those articles are usually at best disingenuous and at worst pernicious bullshit wearing a veneer of biology, even when they get published in the New York Times.

Anyway. Once I figured out how calorie counting actually worked I started playing with calculating a TDEE. This calculator is my favorite because it’s so comprehensive and has much more useful activity level options than most. I decided to aim for 1400-1500 calories per day and see what happened.

-My first breakthrough was that I don’t need breakfast. I don’t wake up very hungry, so why bother? Classic carb-heavy breakfast foods just make me hungrier anyway. That made eating within my daily goal a lot easier—I prefer to spread my calorie allowance across two meals, not three. I like big dinners, and I cannot lie. I haven’t formally cut a single thing out of my diet because fuck that, but as a result of ditching breakfast I’ve sort of accidentally stopped eating cereal. Which is probably fine. Find an eating schedule that works for you personally. Some people swear by breakfast and can pass on heavy dinners.

-My second breakthrough—and this one might be more controversial on this sub—is that with a little trial and error and research, it’s actually totally possible to lose weight estimating calories without weighing your food. I don’t even write anything down, I just keep a running mental tab. I knew there was no way I’d ever commit to weighing food, so I just decided to wing it, and it works fine. Plus, my partner cooks dinner almost every night, it’s often fairly complex, and I’m not about to stand at his elbow measuring all the ingredients. Again, Your Mileage May Vary, and you obviously have less room for mistakes if you have a very small TDEE, but you’d be surprised how good you can get at eyeballing shit with a little experimental weighing (“wtf does an ounce of cheese look like?”) and a lot of googling at first. If you’re totally psyched out by the idea of weighing your food? You might not have to.

-My third breakthrough was realizing that at about 10-15 pounds down, before I could even see any results aside from a slightly softer stomach when I lay on my back (I think my body got rid of the excess visceral fat first, which may not be very glamorous but is SO important to your health in the long run), a bunch of little physical annoyances just evaporated. The weird, vague, foot and ankle pain that had plagued me at a brisk walk for two years disappeared, along with episodes of tendinitis and plantar fasciitis. I also completely stopped snoring. It is amazing how many problems a little weight can cause. It’s interesting to note that for me, at least, these problems hit me right when I edged into obesity, and disappeared when I left it.

-My fourth breakthrough was realizing that I was losing a pound a week even though I couldn’t easily eat under 1500 calories a day without being uncomfortably ravenous. My TDEE is higher than calculators guess, and I’m pretty sure I can thank my muscles for that. I build muscle on my butt and thighs very easily. I used to be a barista, which kept me surprisingly toned, and now that I don’t stand up all day, I make up for it with at least a mile or two of walking every day and a set of lunges and squats a couple times a week. Muscle is hungry. Build some!

-My fifth and final breakthrough was the realization that maintenance breaks are good for you. Not only are they rest from the little built up physical stresses of deficit, they’re a trial run for later, even if your TDEE will still change. I took a long ~3 month break, starting after an injury, because who wants to heal broken bones on a deficit, which then blended into the holidays, because who wants to live in the house of an excellent baker and cook over the holidays on a deficit? I relaxed my mental counting, held onto my knowledge of the relative caloric densities of different foods, and…just maintained. It was easy! Now that I’ve unlearned excessive snacking it’s really easy to trust my actual hunger cues. I know this is another case where I’m lucky, because lots of peoples’ hunger cues are totally borked. But for me, I’m not worried about maintenance anymore because I know that A.) my body is actually adjusting to its new energy requirements and I have no reason to believe it won’t continue to do so and B.) although I may have my occasional big face-stuffing day on special occasions like everyone else, I’m just never going to be able to get back in the “eh, kinda nibbly, might have a second dinner” mindset because I have un-knowable knowledge of how caloric things are. Cheesecake ain’t a snack, etc. It’s like a gentle mental block, and frankly that’s a good thing. I still eat everything that I love, but I know how to be smarter about it. In short, I feel a lot better moving forward towards actual maintenance after my big break.

So that’s where I am now. Not quite done yet, although I feel great and am giddy about being down 2 pant sizes. I was perfectly happy at 145-150 in the past, even though that’s smack on the borderline of overweight/slightly overweight, so I may aim for 145 and see how I feel. I will never be small and dainty. No way will I ever be some calculators’ “ideal weight” of 119 pounds without contracting a horrible wasting disease, and that’s fine. I guess that’s actually my last realization: BMI is a great estimate but please don’t assume you need to be at the low end of normal for your height. Bodies are different.

That was long. Sorry. I hope something was helpful to someone!

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I want to help my mom

hello everyone, long time lurker here.

for context, I have recently lost ~40lbs and have switched to more healthy eating and fitness after moving out of my mom’s house. it was a very natural switch for me even though I was raised on fast food, junk, and normalization of binge eating.

I don’t necessarily think my mom is a binge eater. she just doesn’t care about her health and what she’s eating and has recently been diagnosed with diabetes. she continues to eat sugary and junk food anyway. she is very obese and it’s causing health problems and i am very worried about her. i was obese until i moved out because just living with her meant there would be no healthy food in the house. (i am very short so 40lbs has put me from low end of obese to about 23 bmi, im by no means done with my fitness journey)

recently she has recognized her need to lose weight, and noticing my own weight loss, asked me for help. i have tried giving her advice, and she’s taken to counting calories, but for whatever reason the app recommended her 1200 calories, and she wouldn’t listen to me when I said that’s too low. she exceeds this total every day, eating fast food and relapsing instead of ever even trying to eat healthy. i dont comment when she does this, because i know that she knows and it’s rude and discouraging.

how do i help my mom? im so worried. i just dont know if she can even recover. does anyone have experience with this, or began their weight loss journey at 45-60 years old?

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Weight loss doesn’t have to be miserable

Every now and then, you’ll see a really negative post on this sub, somebody who’s frustrated that their extreme measures aren’t paying off, or are too hard to stick to.

There are so many people here maintaining super restrictive diets, whether it’s a fad diet, or just a super low intake. They’re struggling to stick to it but they think there’s no other way.

I just wanted to chime in, and say that weight loss doesn’t have to suck.

I’ve been on a weight loss journey for the past year, and it’s been a pretty passive effort. All I did for the first few months is maintain a very slight deficit, putting me at 1900 calories a day, I lost a great deal of weight doing nothing but this. As time passed, I decided to take lifting up as a hobby and it became an activity that I enjoyed greatly, and allowed me to bump my intake to a maximum of 2500 depending on what else I did that day. (Running every session, physical labor outside of the gym.) while still losing weight.

At my peak I was around 300lbs. Today I weigh 150, which has been maintained as I drop in body fat and increase in lean mass, giving me an overall leaner appearance as time passes.

I’m not hungry, I’m eating all the foods I love, I’m eating socially, I’m not miserable, the activity is fun.

Weight loss doesn’t have to be miserable.

Please, if you’re reading this and you’re struggling. Do some research, talk to some professionals, figure out a system that you feel like you can maintain for life. This doesn’t have to be as hard as you’re making it for yourself. And please, please, please, eat more than 1000 calories a day.

My methods have lead to very slow progress, and that’s okay, because I still got to where I wanted to be. All it took was patience and dedication. As far as active effort is involved, I don’t feel like I ever really had a hard time with all this. It can be like that for you too, you don’t have to do extreme things to lose weight.

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Constrained Model for calories burn from exercise

So I have been working on sustaining my weight loss (331 Dec 2020 to 220 Sept 2021) and took up cycling, this winter I started structured training with trainer road (10-14 hours a week). All of this has resulted in a considerable projected calorie burn from exercise, on the order of 1100 calories a day as measured by a power meter. So I am still tracking my calories and had expected to be able to add my calories from the cycling to my bmr. My experience has been that this is not true. I am a big CICO fan, it is how I lost weight, but I started to increase my calories by 100 a week and once I hit about 2100-2200 I start to see my weight slowly go up. So I have adjusted to hold, but I guess the CO part of CICO seems not additive for me. So I started to do some internet research :) and came across the concept of constrained calorie burn. What do you think about this?

[This is a good summary article](https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/weight-loss-exercise-myth-burn-calories)

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Roommate comments about weight loss (small rant)

I'm the type of person who gets uncomfortable when people make comments about things that I do/try to better myself even if they're positive. That being said, there are some things that I do that I keep private because I am trying to avoid those types of comments. Up until recently, the fact that I've been doing CICO and going to the gym a few times a week was something that I kept to myself, even to my roommate.

However, the other day, she saw me portioning out my leftovers into separate plastic containers and she made a comment about how she's never seen me meal prep before. This is something that I've been doing for months and so, for some reason, I decided to also tell her about how I've been trying to lose weight and about how I've been going to the gym. She said two things that I haven't been able to stop thinking about.

  1. "You've never had any issues eating healthy"
  2. "You're not going to turn into a gym rat are you?"

I don't know, maybe I'm just being dramatic, but it sort of hurt that she said those things rather than just being supportive. Honestly a simple, "Oh, nice" would have been more than enough for me. I almost wanted to argue to her about how difficult it's been to actively make lifestyle changes every day. How difficult it is to argue with yourself about whether or not you can make today another cheat day every day. Since May 2021, I gained 20lbs because I graduated college and actually had time to eat (I did school and work full time). I can definitely say, I was not eating healthy then and I can still do better now. Funny enough, I actually decided to go to the gym after this interaction to burn off some steam, so that's good I guess.

I know I'm not the only one who has faced comments like this so if anyone has any tips about how to not let it bother me, that'd be great! Currently trying to fight the slight discouragement lol

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Tuesday, January 18, 2022

Looking for support

I'm starting my weight loss journey. I'm a 5'8" tall female weighing in at 250lbs. Long term goal is 135lbs. I had a baby in 2019 and have had a really poor relationship with food since.

I'm working on tracking calories in and out. I'd love to see any advice (especially from fellow mothers juggling toddlers while trying to lose weight). My biggest weakness is portion control. If it is something I really like (i.e. mashed potatoes or bread or rice) I tend to eat huge portions. And this tends to happen at night. Does anyone do late night exercise? How does it work for you? Is exercising in the morning better? I guess I'm trying to find ways to distract myself from eating at night. Also if anyone has links to meal planning templates, that would be very welcome.

I currently use the Lose It! app and have a couple beginner exercise apps installed as well. I've always been pretty sedentary so exercise is a whole new world for me.

Thanks in advance!

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TMI but losing weight makes me even more nervous about sex

I (24F) haven’t had sex in about a year and haven’t had good sex in about 2-3 years. I’ve been too nervous to take my clothes off because I was 5’ 2” and ~260 lbs. I just started my weight loss journey, am 230 lbs currently and I am starting to feel my libido come back. I hate it.

It just sucks because I used to love sex and being physical and loved my body, even until I was around 200 lbs. Now I have flubby arms and super saggy boobs with stretch marks everywhere including my stomach. I plan on getting a breast reduction but I know I am going to have a lot of lose skin on my arms that will need surgery and will always have these stretch marks everywhere.

I miss sex and being physical with someone and being confident. I recently got rejected for being too fat, which is okay everyone has their preferences but it definitely still stung. Now I know even if I lose the weight, which’ll take like 2 years, I will still need the tens of thousands to fix the rest…

Sorry for the rambling, I am feeling defeated right now. Does anyone have any advice?

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